Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo

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2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo - Balance and body control of the GT-R are extraordinary through faster, bumpy bends that will have the 911 unsettled enough to make the driver lose confidence. I had a number of heart-in-mouth moments in the Turbo trying to keep up with the GT-R, even with the Porsche's suspension set to its harder Sport setting. (more)

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#726 of 990 Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [speed6driver] by 240ka May 01, 2008 (8:28 am)
Replying to: speed6driver (May 01, 2008 4:22 am) indeed. and to add to that, just look at how 911 TT's depreciate in value.
#727 of 990 Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [speed6driver] by bmlexus May 01, 2008 (9:14 am)
Replying to: speed6driver (May 01, 2008 4:22 am) Jay Leno will probably be one of the first in line to get one He already GOT IT !!!!!!!!!!!! As I remembered he said its like a junior veyron !!! There is also a video you can check it out. link title
#728 of 990 Re: GT-R is sick. Just sick [240ka] by bigmclargehuge May 01, 2008 (10:21 am)
Replying to: 240ka (May 01, 2008 8:26 am) This just opens up so many possibilities. I can't even imagine how fast the V-spec is. I wonder if they deleted the A/C and radio or if all the weight loss is due to carbon-fiber panels. Either way, 150kg is a lot. And while the slowest GT-R is faster than the fastest Porsche... You ain't seen nothing yet! The 'sporty' ones are on their way. Guaranteed. Replies to this message: 240ka (May 01, 2008 11:31 am) bigmclargehuge (May 01, 2008 1:13 pm) 240ka (May 01, 2008 2:46 pm)
#729 of 990 Re: GT-R is sick. Just sick [bigmclargehuge] by thenebean May 01, 2008 (10:59 am)
Replying to: bigmclargehuge (May 01, 2008 6:24 am) all i can say is wow... WOW!!!
#730 of 990 Re: GT-R is sick. Just sick [bigmclargehuge] by 240ka May 01, 2008 (11:31 am)
Replying to: bigmclargehuge (May 01, 2008 10:21 am) ex"zack"tly. no i dont thiink they are taking the A/C and radio out of the Spec V. maybe the EVO. but with the car weighing nearly 4000lbs. im sure there are plenty areas to cut fat. maybe Nissan created the GT-R with the intention of it being heavy. they way they can continue to up the ante when someone tries to take their crown. by simply trimming fat. and at 3900lbs there is alot of weight to take i cant imagine you can trim that much weight from the 911 TT. for the z06, i think adding weight would be beneficial for aiding the vette in gaining traction Replies to this message: bigmclargehuge (May 01, 2008 1:13 pm) 240ka (May 01, 2008 2:46 pm)
#731 of 990 Re: GT-R is sick. Just sick [240ka] by bigmclargehuge May 01, 2008 (1:13 pm)
Replying to: 240ka (May 01, 2008 11:31 am) Yeah, I think they definitely gave us the world's fastest porker, just for the purpose of having so much room for improvement. Alzen created a '996 GT2 Turbo 4WD' by lightening the 996T to GT2 levels. It still holds the record as the fastest Group A Porsche ever to lap the full Nurburgring (not just Nordschlieffe). That's what the Turbo should have been. Or create a 'GT4'. There's no reason why tubbing out the Turbo to spartan levels wouldn't make it faster. I find it odd that GT3 fans diss the Turbo for being heavy when it comes with stuff... that has been removed on their car. There's an easy fix to that. With the Vette I think the most important thing is to switch to coilovers. They can't be that much more expensive than leaf springs. Replies to this message: 240ka (May 01, 2008 2:46 pm)
#732 of 990 Re: GT-R is sick. Just sick [bigmclargehuge] by 240ka May 01, 2008 (2:46 pm)
Replying to: bigmclargehuge (May 01, 2008 1:13 pm) agree, chevy really needs to do away with the leaf springs. the GT-R is one nasty mother. the nail will be put i nthe coffin on the GT2 also. Nissan is really beating porshe up at their own game. porsches walking away from fights with black eyes and broken bones while Nissan walks out without even breaking a sweat. and for the Z06 only being 3000lbs, and have 505bhp and two seats. its should perform ten times better than it actaully does
#733 of 990 Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [speed6driver] by habitat1 May 02, 2008 (4:16 am)
Replying to: speed6driver (May 01, 2008 4:22 am) There's a certain degree of mystery and natural fascination with the GT-R because it's like a dream you can never quite remember. It's there, and then gone again leaving hints of the memory behind to piece together. The idea of a car becoming a methphor representing that mystery, surprise and dominance is the fun part. That is what sets the GT-R apart from the competition and makes it more than just a car. Would you rather own a name or an actual object that is a living metaphorical legend for power and dominance? Whoa, Nelly! Are you a Nissan PR person or did you just order a double dose of psychodelic mushrooms on your pizza? For those that think some Porsche buyers are a little hung up on the tradition and history of Porsche to be objective, this diatribe makes them seem downright pale by comparison. I'll gladly accept a Porsche is a Porsche. And a Nissan is a Nissan (or a Datsun, or an Infiniti). I bought a 2002 Honda S2000 because, for my purposes, it was a better car than a base Boxster and an far, far better car than the 350Z. I wasn't hung up on Porsche then, and I'm not now. But for goodness sakes, ascribing dilusional dream qualities to a Nissan that you've never sat in, let alone driven? Please, sober up. When the GT-R comes out and is available for public consumption and testing, I'll be happy to give it a fair shake, just as I did 6 years ago with the Honda S2000. And make my own judgement as to fit and finish quality. Or whether its impressive reported performance at Nurburgring comes at the expense of nimbleness and driving dynamics at sub-sonic speeds on public streets. Or whether or not a "sports car" that weighs 900+ lbs more than my 1995 Nissan Maxima (or nearly twice my 1978 Datsun B210 GX) is really my cup of tea. But with all due respect to those that question Porsche, Ferrari or other buyers regarding their objectivity, you need to get a grip on your own emotions and/or your pizza toppings. Automotive purchases are indeed full of subjectivity. But let's not forget that GTR is, also, only a car. Replies to this message: bigmclargehuge (May 02, 2008 5:29 am)
#734 of 990 Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [habitat1] by bigmclargehuge May 02, 2008 (5:29 am)
Replying to: habitat1 (May 02, 2008 4:16 am) But with all due respect to those that question Porsche, Ferrari or other buyers regarding their objectivity No 2 wrongs make a right. Nobody should be telling other people what they want. Bear in mind these are not always the same people. Though you've gone down that road yourself. Are you not a person who told me to work harder so I could afford a real sports car? Sounds like you need to lay of the halucinogens yourself, because you seem to think you have psychic powers. Just a thought. You seem to not want to discuss either the GT-R or the 911 Turbo, but to convert everyone to 'sports cars.' Sports cars are not good, IMHO. If I want feely, light, RWD, NA, manual I'll go all the way. The only exceptions I can think of are Loti. Also, note the rest of the discussion. The GT-R is not the sporty version. The base GT-R is a touring car. Its meant to have back seats. The V-spec will weigh yet less, and thats not even the spartan GT3 type version. Which is sure to come eventually.