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2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo - Balance and body control of the GT-R are extraordinary through faster, bumpy bends that will have the 911 unsettled enough to make the driver lose confidence. I had a number of heart-in-mouth moments in the Turbo trying to keep up with the GT-R, even with the Porsche's suspension set to its harder Sport setting. (more)
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Replying to: lemmer (Apr 03, 2008 1:50 pm) I don't prefer either car. But its fun to comment on the track performance. If they stuck a clutch-based AWD on the GT2, you bet your hind quarters I'd be in the other corner, cheering Porsche.
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Replying to: bigmclargehuge (Apr 03, 2008 2:02 pm) Please, if that's what you think, stick with cheering for Nissan. I'm less than 3 weeks away from receiving my RWD GT2 and handing in the keys of my 911 Turbo. Specifically because it is RWD, weighs considerably less and will give me the quick, nimble, precise handling that I prefer. And notwithstanding it's lack of training wheels, it is considerably quicker around the "Ring" than the GTR vs.the slight advantage the GTR has over the 911TT. When you look at the cars in the GT-R's weight class, they consist of the M6, Aston Martin, SL63, and other cars that fall more into the GT class. Nissan's performance numbers look impressive on paper and some would claim it doesn't feel like a 2-ton car, but I find that hard to believe. Please leave the GT2 alone. Not all of us need or want training wheels and the weight and other unwanted side effects that go along with them.
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Replying to: spiritinthesky (Apr 03, 2008 5:08 pm) Weighs exactly the same as the current GT2, with AWD. And looks better too, IMHO. They can keep the GT2, I meant this is what the Porsche turbo should have been. Lightweight and more powerful. It could keep pace with the current 911T, with a manual no less! And that was 20 years ago! Also, there are some very impressive 2-ton cars out there. The GT-R does not stand alone. Mercedes SL 63 AMG Black Series lapped the 'Ring in 7:36. Only 5 seconds behind the fastest GT2 time, with far fewer laps under its belt. The superiority of the GT2 around the 'Ring has more to do with its 530hp than its 'lack of training wheels.' Add 50hp to the 911T and they would be neck-and-neck. Bring the weight of the 911T down to 959 level and I'd estimate it to be a bit faster. Hardly disadvantageous. Porsche has the tooling to create a vastly superior car than the current 911T. I just wish they'd gotten on that horse years ago. Everything else is your personal opinon.
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Replying to: bigmclargehuge (Apr 01, 2008 12:47 pm) |
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Replying to: spiritinthesky (Apr 03, 2008 5:08 pm) |
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Post by Edmunds' Engineering Editor Jason Kavanagh.
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Replying to: bigmclargehuge (Apr 03, 2008 5:29 pm) Grow up sonny, most of what you are posting is your personal opinion at best, a regurgitation of other opinions at worst, with what appears to be no real personal experience at all. So while you are proudly admitting to hypocracy in some sort of self deprecating exercise, you might want to reign in your arrogance until you actually get your butt in any of the cars you would like to be an expert on. I am quite familiar with Porsche's "best". I drove a collector friend's 959 back in the early/mid 1990's many times. (He had bought my original 1978 BMW M1). As spectacular as the 959 was for its day, it cost $500k a unit to produce back then and even the street legal version would bust your kidneys over slight road imperfections. Not to mention that it didn't have air conditioning, a single airbag, or power anything. My guess is that after the EPA got done with it, the 2008 version of the 959 would have at least 250+ lbs added to its curb weight. Still a musk ox less than the GT-R, but well more than the 997 GT2. I've also been around Nurburgring's Nordschleife circuit a few times, most recently last fall in a 997 GT3. I posted the best time of any "amateur" driver for the week I was there, but I am not embarassed ot admit it was slightly over 8 minutes. There were no 2-ton AMG's in front of me. And how do you reconcile that SL63's purported time reconcile with an automatic transmission and RWD handicaps?? I have no interest in debating high end sports cars with someone whose expertise is in reading car magazines. I was simply pointing out that among those of us that actually own and drive such cars, it appears that Porsche will have no difficulty charging a $75k premium for the GT2 over the 911TT. For some very good reasons, or, if you prefer, experience based "opinions". Enjoy your reading.
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Replying to: spiritinthesky (Apr 04, 2008 2:25 am) I've been playing fair all along. I like the GT2, I just think Porsche needs a GT4. Are you seriosly picking on a 20-year old car for not being as comfortable? AMG has some of the most advanced differentials and suspensions in the world. Thats the only reconciliation it needs. It indeed gives up 30hp and 700lbs on the GT2, and still runs about even with it. The reason you didn't see any on the track, is because it was not for sale yet. But at 130K, its a relative bargain. But not to fear, the SLR and the CLK DTM AMG both ran 7:40s. About even with the GT3.
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