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2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo - Balance and body control of the GT-R are extraordinary through faster, bumpy bends that will have the 911 unsettled enough to make the driver lose confidence. I had a number of heart-in-mouth moments in the Turbo trying to keep up with the GT-R, even with the Porsche's suspension set to its harder Sport setting. (more)
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Replying to: pmc4 (Dec 15, 2007 2:53 pm) In fact, the GT3 runs about $20k less than the 911 Turbo. And, if I'm not mistaken, the Corvette Z06 well less than the GT-R. And both make it around Nurburgring faster. If anyone, Edmunds or other, wants to make a real claim regarding the "best of the best", they also better include the 500+ hp RWD 911 GT2. The 911 Turbo is a very fine car, but is not the pinnacle of sport in Porsche's 911 line-up by at least two rungs. Some would claim it might even be below the much lighter 911 C2S w/ X51. Personally, as far as the GT-R goes, Nissan can keep it. Nearly two tons in a two seater  (my nearly 500 lb lighter 911S Cabriolet seats my family of four). For the relative handful of $70k GT-R's that Nissan will sell, I think they would have been better off taking that money and putting it into making the 350Z a real sports car in the $35k range. It also carries an extra water buffalo in weight compared to the Cayman, Honda S2000 and Boxster.
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Replying to: KarenS (Dec 14, 2007 9:27 am) I've read the entire article and all I could come up with was " so ! " If this car is $40K less than the Porsche Turbo, that would put it at between$90K & $110K. Look on any Porsche dealerships site.. the Turbo coupe goes for $130-150K. I own a 2006 C2S. I expect 20 years from now , when I close the door, it will continue to sound like a fine swiss watch/ bank vault combo. The Nissan's motor will still be purring... but the body panels will be rusted through and the interior will be trash. As someone on this site stated , so to the point.and with such an obvious perspective " you get what you pay for ". I prefer build quality. Evolution, not revolution and nothing with such Godzilla grotesque lines. European design suites me just fine. Classic Porsche yes!!!! Chromedome |
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Replying to: chrmdome (Dec 16, 2007 7:39 pm) The GT-R is far more likely to appeal to someone who might be looking at a Corvette Z06 or a Dodge Viper. Comparisons to more upscale brands such as Porsche, Ferrari, Aston Martin and others is a nice marketing ploy by Nissan, but its absurd to think that most purchasers of a 911 Turbo or GT3 or Ferrari 430 are going to be influenced to consider a grotesquely heavy GT oriented car, just because of impressive track performance. Especially one that, as you put it, looks like it was designed by a carryover make up artist from the Godzilla movies. I am not a Porsche or European snob. As a former Boxster S owner, I think the Honda S2000 is a pretty impressive car for $20,000+ less. The former NSX was also a worthy competitor. But Nissan is on a completely different tract than Honda/Acura and not one that would ever appeal to me or the host of other Porsche owners I know.
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Replying to: pmc4 (Dec 15, 2007 2:53 pm) "Stating that the GT-R is the best car Edmunds has ever driven based on "all-around ability" is also asking for trouble." I think the writer stated that this was the best car he has ever driven. Completely subjective, kinda hard to argue against. "The GT-R's 7,000 redline is too low. Lower than the Benz AMG M156, Corvette Z06 LS7 and especially the Porsche GT-3's redline. No mention of the deficiency was mentioned; just the fact that the engine redlines at 7K." If you consider the GT-3, the Benz, and the Z06 to be the benchmarks for engine redlines, more power to you. Perhaps the author doesn't consider this car's 7000 rpm redline to be a deficiency. "The GT-R and Porsche turbo are too heavy. No mention of these chassis deficiencies were mentioned; just the weights themselves." I believe he called it "chunky". "The GT-R has a dashboard meant to 'wow' adolescents and was designed by a video game designer who works for Sony Playstation -- the #1 gaming choice for 12-16 year-olds throught the globe. There was no mention of this fact in the article." Probably because it doesn't matter. I doubt that Nissan is marketing this car the 12-16 year olds. |
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Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 16, 2007 4:09 am) Most cost estimates I've seen put the GT-R right at the Z06 price range. Motortrend has the "current Z06" listed with a lap time of 7:42 at Nurburgring, slower than the reported time for the GT-R. http://www.motortrend.com/features/editorial/112_0709_the_big_picture "For the relative handful of $70k GT-R's that Nissan will sell, I think they would have been better off taking that money and putting it into making the 350Z a real sports car in the $35k range. It also carries an extra water buffalo in weight compared to the Cayman, Honda S2000 and Boxster. " I suspect that Nissan will sell plenty of these over the next year.
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Replying to: chrmdome (Dec 16, 2007 7:39 pm) The price estimates I've seen put the Nissan under $75K. That's $55-$75K less that the Porsche Turbo prices you state. Even more impressive. "I own a 2006 C2S. I expect 20 years from now , when I close the door, it will continue to sound like a fine swiss watch/ bank vault combo. The Nissan's motor will still be purring... but the body panels will be rusted through and the interior will be trash." A cars longevity depends on the care and upkeep it receives. I can assure you anything that will rust a Nissan's exterior or trash it's interior, will do the same thing to your C2S. |
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Replying to: redsoxgirl (Dec 17, 2007 5:22 am) "The GT-R is far more likely to appeal to someone who might be looking at a Corvette Z06 or a Dodge Viper. " I think the car will appeal to people who like being able to say, "My car is as fast as your car for thousands less"; just like Porsches appeal to people who like being able to say, "Yeah, but my car is a Porsche".
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Replying to: hsquared (Dec 17, 2007 8:01 pm) To that effect, Nissan even made the displacement the same, not to mentioned AWD. The only significant difference is engine placement. This car (GT-R) competes with the Porsche turbo like the Corvette Z06 competes with the Ferrari F430: two cars that are as good or better; far more reliable, cost about 1/2 and better recent performance on the racing circuits (with exception to Ferrari's F-1 program). |
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Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 16, 2007 4:09 am) Porsche GT3 and Chevrolet Corvette Z06 -- two better cars that are lighter, more competent, weigh over 500 pounds less, are true exotics, and cost just a little more than the tested cars. Then you said, In fact, the GT3 runs about $20k less than the 911 Turbo. And, if I'm not mistaken, the Corvette Z06 well less than the GT-R. It's good to know that you still recognise that the Porsche GT3 and Chevrolet Corvette Z06 are two better cars that are lighter, more competent, weigh over 500 pounds less, and are true exotics. ...My bad on the 911 turbo being the more expensive car... 
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Replying to: chrmdome (Dec 16, 2007 7:39 pm) "The Porsche 911 is the epitome of flawlessness. As you rev the 6-cylinder engine, 400 horsepower howl with the sonorous notes of the London Symphony Orchestra right up to its Grand Teton-like 7,000 RPM limit. The car rockets down the road with poise comparable to a F-30 Tomcat fighterplane, with composure that is utterly flawless and superb. The utterly flawless, superb and poised Corinthian leather interior has such a high standard of craftsmanship, we wondered if the hides were hand-stitched by the Amish. The utterly poised and flawless vinyl padding on the dash was so convincingly like real leather, the only way we could tell it was fake was by taking a switchblade knife to it. You can feel every tooth meshing in the utterly flawless gear shifter, and the shifter itself seems as if it glides on Teflon-coated bearings that are flawlessly wrapped in Chinese silk. The steering? Utterly superb and telepathic, of course; as if the car was being powered by a hitherto unforknown force of some sort -- very eerie. Not to mention the surgeon-precise way the steering carves this phonomenal jewel of German automotive engineering down the road. It really is as if Luke Skywalker is using the Force to make this car carve through the twisty stuff. Braking? Utterly flawless, superb, poised and composed, as if Godzilla's own Mechanic made the humungous, 13" cross-drilled steel brake rotors that, of course, did not fade during our brief stay with the car -- visualise a $350 million Japanese MAGLEV train, only this time the MAGLEV is stopping rather than starting. The brakes are that good." I knew you'd like this utterly superb, composed, flawless and dare I say poised review I found! 
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