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Honda Civic, Coupe, Sedan
#10 of 39 Re: Civic Si Automatic [coupe2]
Dec 13, 2007 (3:40 pm)
Does not make any sense to me. People who buy Si love to have control over their cars, and often drive them close to the limit.
I personally don't want an auto to change gears on me and trigger a loss of traction while I'm in the middle of taking a corner...
Mustang owners obviously are more into straight line acceleration, so auto option is absolutely valid and does not surprise me here, and WRX is probably just trying to please American market...
For the record - I own 92 and 03 Si, and used to own 84 JDM one...
#11 of 39 Re: Civic Si Automatic [mishaa]
Dec 13, 2007 (3:53 pm)
"...and WRX is probably just trying to please American market..."
Of course, the new Subaru Impreza WRX - STI is only avaliable with a 6-Speed manual. No nasty slushboxes need apply.
#12 of 39 Re: Civic Si Automatic [shipo]
Dec 13, 2007 (10:52 pm)
I did not check this myself, and used info available in this thread - shame on me
and good for Subaru
#13 of 39 Re: Civic Si Automatic [mishaa]
Dec 14, 2007 (9:17 am)
I'm thinking that you were half correct as the base 224 hp WRX is still available with an automatic, it's the 305 hp STI model that is manual transmission only.
#14 of 39 Re: Civic Si Automatic [shipo]
Dec 14, 2007 (12:55 pm)
Just drove an SE-V6 Eclipse...auto..5 speed....by Si~
#15 of 39 Thank goodness...
Dec 14, 2007 (3:45 pm)
...the status of the Si remains intact.
#16 of 39 price paid for SI
Dec 14, 2007 (4:56 pm)
I am planning on buying a car in the next few months and loved the Si I just test drove. Most new ones I have seen on lots are mid to high 23s once the dealers tack on all the fees. I've heard you can get them for just over 20 or 21 though. Does anyone have any recent experiences?
I was also looking at used to possibly save a few K. Although its a Honda, the concept of buying a one year old Si makes me a little nervous because I have to wonder why it was already traded in- not broken in correctly, ridden too hard, etc. Is it worth buying an 06 or 07 with 20K for $19k from somewhere like Carmax/Honda dealer or for that difference is it better to just go new?
Also, I saw a few used ones that have leather seats. Is it worth looking into or does it take away from the way the seats grip you when going around a curve?
#17 of 39 Re: Civic Si Automatic [coupe2]
Dec 15, 2007 (8:08 pm)
Learn to drive... a stick. It is easier than waiting for tow trucks and the Mitsubishi dealer to fix your car.
#18 of 39 Civic Si Automatic
Dec 24, 2007 (10:23 am)
I drove stick almost all my life; until my nagging wife ordered me not to buy new car with stick.
Some snobs laughed when BMW introduced 4 doors M3.
There is a maket for people who are forced to drive auto. but is still longing for the taste. Just like light beer.
#19 of 39 My Take -- Auto Si
Dec 24, 2007 (10:52 am)
Personally, I would never buy an Si (or any other sport-type car for that matter) if I were forced to have it as an automatic. You just can't have the fun with an auto tranny as you you would with a manual. With the exception of the beater car I had in high school, I've always driven standards, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
In general, if you care about the image of the Si and getting full use of its performance, then you'll absolutely go for manual. If you want the name and image but don't care about the performance as much, then an auto would be fine. (this goes for any car, not just the Si, of course... mustangs, BMW's, whatever)
In the way of comparison... Automatic transmissions are specifically designed for economy and ease. They are designed to keep the engine within the most efficient range, no matter what. However, if you want to use a car's full performance, you can't do that... using the performance capabilities is inherently inefficient. While I'll admit that some trannys have made progress toward allowing for more performance use, a) this defeats the purpose of autos b) it still limits your performance (relative to what you could do in a manual) c) it's difficult to switch between the 'normal' and 'sport' modes. I gauge this from a test drive I did in the auto VW GTI. While their double-clutch system works very well, there were still usable regions of the tach that still went ignored. Additionally, in order to change the tranny to the 'sport' mode (to allow me to bring it above 3k rpms), you have to stop the car and then change it . Flash forward to my Si, and anytime I want to suddenly switch from driving like normal to having fun, I just stand on the pedal and enjoy. Easy as that.
This is just me, but really, I can never be convinced that an auto tranny belongs in any sporty car on the road. It just defeats the purpose of having that sportiness, or keeps you from utilizing the full capabilities of the car.