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Sedans Honda Civic Honda Civic Si Automatic
39 messages, Last post on Sep 30, 2008 at 11:37 AM
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Replying to: coupe2 (Dec 11, 2007 10:06 am) http://www.nissanusa.com/se-r/ Nissan offers the Sentra Se-R (race inspired) in both manual- the Spec-V with 200 HP and in automatic with 177 HP. Why doesn't Honda take a similar path and develop a less powerful automatic Si- with say 175 HP. I'm sure that it would draw a lot more people in- especially with the regular Civic only offering 140 HP.
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Replying to: spikepark (May 09, 2008 12:53 pm) Best Regards, Shipo |
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Apparently there are no plans for a civic Si automatic. Sorry but the K20Z1 is just too good for an automatic  . It would probably be detuned and wouldn't rev so high due to the torque converter.
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Replying to: shipo (Dec 11, 2007 11:29 am) I seriously agree with this statement. What's the point in having a performance car if you want to leave all of the control to the tranny? Just because other manufacturers defile their performance cars with an auto doesn't make it a good idea.
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Replying to: spikepark (May 09, 2008 12:53 pm) If you're willing to take that big of a performance hit just for an auto tranny, why not just take the Civic EX?
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Replying to: tiger72 (May 12, 2008 7:24 am) |
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Replying to: tiger72 (May 12, 2008 7:27 am) The Sentra Se-R is 177 hp in auto. and 200 hp in manual. The Civic Si is 198 hp in manual and could be 175 hp in auto. Makes sense to me.
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Replying to: spikepark (May 21, 2008 12:01 pm)
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Replying to: tiger72 (May 22, 2008 7:37 am) 
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A lot of people are overlooking the fact that the other performance cars mentioned have good horsepower, but also have a pretty good torque band as well. In the Civic Si, the power really doesn't pick up until 6,000 RPM. To utilize that properly, you really need to shift it yourself. The Sentra that has been mentioned has what amounts to a Nissan Altima powertrain. It's larger in displacement, and offers much more usable power, without the race-car experience of the Civic Si. An automatic is ok there, because around town, it'll still feel punchy. A Civic Si has only 139 lb-ft of torque, and would feel little different from the mainstream 1.8L Civic with an auto left to rev under 4000rpm, as most people drive. The torque peak in the Civic is over 6,000 RPM, with max horsepower coming at 7,800 RPM. You need a manual tranny to utilize that power properly.
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