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Should the US government bring back the 55 mph max speed limit again?

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The double nickel by billingsley
Dec 06, 2007 (6:49 am)
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55! What a joke that was. I drove from L.A. to Oklahoma during the 55 limit, and I thought I would never get there. Plus, the amount of time and money spent on having cops out there in unmarked cars giving tickets when they could have been used on other things was ridiculous. Montana had the right idea during that time. If a motorist was doing under 70, the motorist got a $5 waste of natural resources ticket.
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A Bad Law- Then and Now... by roadburner
Dec 06, 2007 (11:50 am)
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The 55 NSL was a tremendous waste of time and law enforcement resources. I also think that the law was so ridiculous that it reduced respect for traffic laws across the board. On top of that, you will find that almost every US car designed during that period was a less than stellar vehicle. My 1984 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe was good for just one stop from 80 mpf. Try for two and the pedal dropped to the floor...
Now that the authority to set speed limits has been returned to the states(where it belongs), all we need is a law which makes camping in the left lane a capital offense.
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Re: A Bad Law- Then and Now... [roadburner] by steve_ HOST
Dec 06, 2007 (12:09 pm)
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Replying to: roadburner (Dec 06, 2007 11:50 am)

Now that the authority to set speed limits has been returned to the states
 
That authority was returned to the states in 1995 after repeal of a national speed limit law. Some federal strings are attached to federal highway trust funds money. link. I think there are dui and public transportation strings attached; probably a few other "national" things.
 
All the rural interstates seem to run between 65 and 75 mph, expect for some sparsely populated counties in Texas where the limit is 80. I recall that Kansas had 80 mph limits back before the 70's oil crisis.
 
Check out the Who Pays for our Roads? discussion too.
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Re: A Bad Law- Then and Now... [roadburner] by fezo
Dec 06, 2007 (12:32 pm)
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Replying to: roadburner (Dec 06, 2007 11:50 am)

"Now that the authority to set speed limits has been returned to the states(where it belongs), all we need is a law which makes camping in the left lane a capital offense."
 
Such a shame that they will never pass that one...
 
I remember that when they passed the national 55 law I had a Volvo 142. Now, anyone who ever had one of these things will know that you can get passed by glaciers driving one. If you could get the floorboards to rust out you could increase your speed by using the Fred Flintstone method of propulsion. That said, I had trouble staying awake doing 55 in it in New Jersey!
 
Surely given today's far superior cars there's no place for turtle speeds on Interstates.
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Re: A Bad Law- Then and Now... [fezo] by andres3
Dec 06, 2007 (7:05 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (Dec 06, 2007 12:32 pm)

I don't believe there should be any speed limits, just let people drive and punish them when they are careless and negligent.
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Re: A Bad Law- Then and Now... [andres3] by steve_ HOST
Dec 06, 2007 (7:40 pm)
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Replying to: andres3 (Dec 06, 2007 7:05 pm)

That was part of the problem in Montana when they had "reasonable and prudent" as the speed limit, instead of an actual limit. A guy was going 85, and a cop gave him a speeding ticket. The guy appealed up to the Montana Supreme Ct. The court said the law was was unconstitutionally vague and did not give drivers fair notice of what speed was fast enough to be illegal. (Wikipedia). You'd clog up the courts pretty fast debating every ticket based on traffic conditions, weather, how many grasshoppers were crossing the road, how recently you had replaced your brake pads, etc.
 
For more entertainment, after a fashion, look up the guy who was speeding in that wiki link.
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Re: A Bad Law- Then and Now... [steve_] by andres3
Dec 06, 2007 (11:38 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 06, 2007 7:40 pm)

What's wrong with going 85 in Montana. Most likely the cop was just having a bad day and decided to take it out on an innocent man.
 
The problem isn't people clogging up the courts, its on officer's writing frivolous tickets making people want to clog up the courts.
 
I for one, don't see a problem with clogged up courtrooms; preferable to the current joke of a justice system our traffic rules in CA have led to.
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I can sum this debate up with one song... by british_rover
Dec 07, 2007 (7:00 am)
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Sammy Hagar
 
 
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It didn't work.... by andys120
Dec 07, 2007 (7:03 am)
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for a simple reason and that is that highway traffic is similar to water and responds to the laws of hydrodynamics which means that traffic will move faster on a straight road than on one that is curved and has a lot of obstructions (i.e. other traffic). Trying to make traffic move slower than the 85th percentile of the average speed of the natural traffic is unnatural and bound to fail as it did back in the unlamented 1970s.
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Actually... by grbeck
Dec 07, 2007 (9:46 am)
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...Hitler was an auto enthusiast (although he was usually driven by a chauffeur in his Mercedes) who supported the racing efforts of German automakers and pushed for the construction of the Autobahn, so I don't know if he would necessarily be in favor of the 55 mph speed limit.
 
No word yet on the position of Lenin, Stalin or Pol Pot on it...
 
German attitudes on speed are interesting. Driving is taken seriously. Germans drive faster than we do, even on those parts of the Autobahn with a speed limit. But I sense a greater respect for speed and what cars can do over there. (They are also much more interested in the technical aspect of cars, and would never make vehicles like the F-150 or Camry best sellers, and GM would never dare to offer clunkers like the Cobalt, G6 or Impala to the German public.)
 
People take driving more seriously, and have a more “mature” view of speed. They aren’t running around squawking the “speed kills” nonsense, but they don’t glorify “hooning,” either. Drivers who camp in the passing lane are not tolerated.
 
Fast driving is seen as a pleasurable, safe and rapid way to get where you are going, and both cars and drivers are expected to have the capabilities necessary to handle it when on the Autobahn.

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