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Should the US government bring back the 55 mph max speed limit again?

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Re: Speed up for safety? [snakeweasel] by kernick
Dec 21, 2007 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Dec 21, 2007 5:02 am)

Excuse me but in a situation when a car going the other way crosses the median and is headed your way for a head on collision wouldn't speeding up cause a worse accident?
 
Usually. Unless you have something really fast. We're probably talking supercar fast. Braking would typically be the first inclination, and better in a typical car, jjust because the overall meeting speed is reduced. But that is still not very good. I'd actually cut across the median too into their lane, and then it woould just be like jolly old England.
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Re: Speed up for safety? [andres3] by nippononly
Dec 21, 2007 (7:34 am)
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Replying to: andres3 (Dec 20, 2007 10:34 pm)

Whoa, dude, better check the paranoia level...
 
I'm really glad some of you guys don't live anywhere near me. The problem is, there probably ARE people on the roads near me that think this way...
 

 
Check out one of those emergency driving techniques courses some time. They are offered in most areas, often at raceways. And nowhere in the curriculum does the following appear: "speed up to more than 100 or whatever speed it takes and go zigzagging through traffic to get away from the terrorist or out of control motorist"...
 
...such a response is just a formula for being the cause of a MASSIVE accident.
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Re: Speed up for safety? [andres3] by bumpy
Dec 21, 2007 (7:35 am)
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Replying to: andres3 (Dec 20, 2007 10:30 pm)

Although your post is entertaining, it is also quite foolish and naive.
 
Actually, it's a spoof of an old Calvin & Hobbes cartoon. The original involved a house with a propane leak, a crashing 747, then the train, etc.
 
At any rate, you're supposed to slow down and steer right toward the ditch to avoid a head-on collision, according to driving school.
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grbeck: by euphonium
Dec 21, 2007 (11:28 am)
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and most people drive automobiles with considerably superior capabilities to those of the Driver. would be more accurate.
 
World War II ended over 60 years ago; gasoline is not being rationed today and the chance it will be is quite slim; you can only hope, but if the need of national defense screams for rationing of fuel many won't care because they will be drafted into the Army anyway.
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Re: grbeck: [euphonium] by kernick
Dec 21, 2007 (11:50 am)
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Replying to: euphonium (Dec 21, 2007 11:28 am)

you can only hope, but if the need of national defense screams for rationing of fuel.
 
You will never see another war like WWII, meaning a protracted high level war, so there will never be rationing due to the military using the fuel. Now you could see a shortage during the war, simply because of breaks in the supply, or who we go to war with. Simply put - no war with the U.S. would last long as today's weapons are too deadly, and equipment would quickly be used up. And a low-level guerilla war like Iraq or Afghanistan does not use enough fuel to hurt global supplies.
 
they will be drafted into the Army anyway.
 
More likely drafted into making replacement missiles in a factory, which is how we'd fight a non-guerilla war.
 
But even if there was rationing, I'd guess the black-market that always develops would be available for those who are willing to pay the $. So what does rationing have to do with driving 55mph? I'd guess if it's to maximize mpg, I'd think I'd ignore coming to a full-stop, and driving closer to 55mph even in a 30-zone so as to get highway mpg, instead of city mpg.
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Re: Speed up for safety? [kernick] by snakeweasel
Dec 21, 2007 (6:25 pm)
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Replying to: kernick (Dec 21, 2007 5:46 am)

I'd actually cut across the median too into their lane, and then it would just be like jolly old England.
 
Yeah until they realize what they are doing and cut back then WHAM!
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Re: grbeck: [kernick] by euphonium
Dec 21, 2007 (9:41 pm)
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Replying to: kernick (Dec 21, 2007 11:50 am)

Your comment was repeated after WWI as then it was thought the machine gun was too horrible of a weapon, but look what happend a few decades later. I would like to believe your crystal ball image, but my military background says to be more realistic.
 
Final Word: When fuel is needed to fight a war, it will be rationed. When it is rationed, the speed limit will be 55 or less. The Military has prior claim and the Military will be honored.
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Re: grbeck: [euphonium] by fintail
Dec 22, 2007 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: euphonium (Dec 21, 2007 9:41 pm)

Yes, if there is another grand scale ground war like WW2, there will be gas rationing and likely lowered limits (likely with enforcement as consistent as what we see today). And indeed, there will be another war. I doubt it will be as reliant on ground transportation however, technology has jumped a bit since the follies of 1945 and those who came in the following decades.
 
 
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Why stop at 55? by oldfarmer50
Dec 22, 2007 (3:20 pm)
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If we just PUSH our cars around think of how much oil we can save.
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Re: grbeck: [euphonium] by kernick
Dec 23, 2007 (11:44 am)
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Replying to: euphonium (Dec 21, 2007 9:41 pm)

I would like to believe your crystal ball image, but my military background says to be more realistic.
 
Well if you look at the modern fairly full-blown wars, you see they don't last long. Look at the Israeli wars, and the 2 wars with Iraq. They last for weeks. Why? Modern munitions are much more accurate hitting their targets about 100X more often. At the end of a week or 2 the majority of 1-sides weapons are eliminated, and even the victors are short on ammo. Now if you're talking an occupation or low-level war which is what Iraq is, or even a war like Vietnam, those types of war do not require rationing.

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