Edmunds.com | Inside Line | Auto Observer Your Account | Help | Directory
You are here:
![[F]](http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/townhall/webxicons/site.gif){kind=small}
Forums
Automotive News & Views Should the US government bring back the 55 mph max speed limit again?
1418 messages, Last post on Dec 16, 2008 at 11:21 AM
You are in the Automotive News & Views Forum. Your Hosts are steve_ & claires
|
Replying to: cdn_tch (Dec 14, 2008 6:59 pm) That is not our society's ACTUAL stance at all. Why surely we don't want extra people to die, if we wanted to prevent every accident and death possible, there are many more things we could do. For example, I can list: First and foremost - stop discretionary driving. Only allow auto makers to make the better performing cars - i.e. best braking distances, best handling. Use racing safety, the same systems that keep NASCAR drivers from death in their high speed wrecks. So no we don't as a society try to prevent every death possible. We allow teens to hop in a car with their friends, not wearing crash helmets, enjoying the entertainment of their car and cellphones, in vehicles that don't have the best brakes and tires, and drive 150 miles in a day, to simply lay on a beach. Injuries and deaths increase because we have granted people the freedom to do this. Driving is an increased risk that we take voluntarily. What we are and aren't willing to accept in the name of safety is also something we do voluntarily. . |
|
|
Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 14, 2008 10:47 pm)  Everyone should read at least some of Solzhenitzen's Gulag Archipelago.
|
|
|
Replying to: kernick (Dec 15, 2008 5:46 am)
|
|
|
Replying to: steve_ (Dec 15, 2008 10:25 am) Shorts and tee shirt weather is 31 degrees F.  (H20 of course freezes  32 degrees.... hoo rah !!!
|
|
|
Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 15, 2008 10:36 am)  It's interesting that Solzhenitsyn moved to Vermont instead of, say, Panama City. I'm not sure why this story is dated today; the finding were probably posted in here a year ago. But it makes for a snappy headline to get us back on topic: US DOT Report Confirms Speed Not Major Accident Cause (thenewspaper.com) And I'm not sure I believe this guy's story - maybe he mistakenly rented a police cruiser? "In two hours in moderate traffic, we saw no one seriously exceeding that 75-mph posted speed limit." It's time to raise the speed limit (National Post)
|
|
|
Replying to: steve_ (Dec 15, 2008 10:45 am) 53 years in the making. It actually ranks as "cursing in church" as it has LONG been dogma and comission of heresy to deviate from "SPEED KILLS" So while a generation or so LATE, I for one welcome the more "transparent look" I am waiting for one of the other truths to be published, (might take another 53 years) that the overwhelming majority (80% of the fatalities) happen at 45 mph and UNDER. |
|
|
Replying to: cdn_tch (Dec 14, 2008 6:59 pm) The real story here is that a similar drop occurred during the first fuel crisis in 1974, and it was credited to the enactment of the nationwide 55 mph speed limit. But 34 years later, a drop of similar magnitude occurs, without any change in the speed limit, but during another big run-up in gasoline prices. Which suggests that the drop in 1974 was due to other factors, not the enactment of the 55 speed limit. And, on an anecdotal level, I've noted that while traffic volume is down on major highways, people are not slowing down. After Thanksgiving, we traveled on the Pennsylvania Turnpike, and most people were driving 75 mph. I kept the speed at 65 mph (the speed limit) as a test for a few miles, and we were passed by virtually everyone. So, people are driving LESS (gasoline usage and miles driven are both down for the year, if I recall correctly), but they aren't slowing down on limited access highways when they do drive. cdn_tch: So every death that can be prevented, should be. Lest you be the one delivering or have delivered to you the sad news that someone you care for is never coming home. Only problem is that imposing an arbitrary and too-low speed limit on limited access highways is a waste of money and law enforcement resources, and won't do anything to prevent deaths.
|
|
|
Replying to: grbeck (Dec 15, 2008 12:14 pm) But 34 years later, a drop of similar magnitude occurs, without any change in the speed limit, but during another big run-up in gasoline prices. Which suggests that the drop in 1974 was due to other factors, not the enactment of the 55 speed limit. In '74 some of the enforcement was draconian. so people did slow down then. Also when there are fewer vehicles on the road, the lower congestion will also improve safety. I kept the speed at 65 mph (the speed limit) as a test for a few miles, and we were passed by virtually everyone. No you were not. You were only passed by those who were doing at least 75 because at a speed less than that they would not be able to catch and pass you within the few minutes you were doing 65!
|
|
|
|
|
Replying to: cdn_tch (Dec 15, 2008 12:44 pm) my guess is not many.
|
|
|
Replying to: cdn_tch (Dec 15, 2008 12:44 pm) Enforcement didn't become much stricter until the Carter administration, when states were required to prove that a certain percentage of drivers were obeying the 55 mph speed limit, or lose part of their federal highway money. The Carter administration didn't begin until January 1977. It has also been repeatedly shown that lowering speed limits on limited access highways has little or no effect on how fast most people drive. The only thing it does is increase speed variance between the fastest drivers and the slower ones, who obey the speed limit. cdn_tch: No you were not. You were only passed by those who were doing at least 75 because at a speed less than that they would not be able to catch and pass you within the few minutes you were doing 65! We were initially traveling at 65 mph. We passed NO ONE. We were passed by a steady stream of vehicles. When we sped up to 75 mph, we were going with the flow of traffic...although we were passed by a few cars driving 80 mph and over. We also passed only one or two cars. We did pass a few tractor trailers. Using the principles of logical reasoning, based upon observation, one could conclude that most people are driving 75 mph - at least on the Pennsylvania Turnpike.
|
|
You are here:
Forums
Automotive News & Views Should the US government bring back the 55 mph max speed limit again?
New? Join Now!
Forum Tools
Search Forums
Browse by Vehicle
Browse by Board
Browse by Topic
Today's Chats
