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Should the US government bring back the 55 mph max speed limit again?

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Re: And without a drop to 55mph [kernick] by ruking1
Dec 12, 2008 (9:46 am)
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Replying to: kernick (Dec 12, 2008 9:30 am)

Indeed the issues are pretty clear.
 
Higher speed limits ( and defacto) are actually RESULTING in safer highways, aka does NOT result in the projected carnage predicted by the 55 mph and less advocates and fear mongerers: given a host of modifying variables. Now I realize that is not the party line and the conclusion/s are not ones they want to emphasize.
 
One just has to remember to look to Europe as a baseline. They have 80 mph to NO speed limits and their fatality rate (per capita) is similar to ours. The modifying variables are materially the same.
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Re: And without a drop to 55mph [ruking1] by steve_ HOST
Dec 12, 2008 (9:53 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 12, 2008 9:46 am)

I posted a link a month or three ago that indicated that EU speed limits were very similar to the US ones.
 
For instance I'm enjoying my new snow/ice tires (and the government didn't have to write a law telling me to be smart!).
 
Kernick, move just a bit farther north to Quebec and you'll be both smart and legal.
 
Quebec prepares to become the first province to make winter tires compulsory (Globe & Mail)
 
[edit - you still have power Kernick? Sounds like quite the ice storm up there]
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Re: And without a drop to 55mph [steve_] by ruking1
Dec 12, 2008 (9:58 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 12, 2008 9:53 am)

For sure it depends how you measure it.
 
So for example point a to b and importantly END DESTINATION to END DESTINATION, believe it or not it is almost impossible to get much over 55 mph AVERAGE. So just because a European has a 55 mph AVERAGE it doesn't mean for example he has not gone 120 mph in achieving that average, nor woujld it necessarily mean an American HAD to go 120 mph, yet still achieve the same AVERAGE..
 
So again the methodology is all important.
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Re: And without a drop to 55mph [ruking1] by steve_ HOST
Dec 12, 2008 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 12, 2008 9:58 am)

No, I mean that with the exception of parts of the Autobahn, most of the EU posted limits are similar to ours.
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Re: And without a drop to 55mph [steve_] by ruking1
Dec 12, 2008 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 12, 2008 9:59 am)

Indeed I would not doubt that for speed limits can actually be posted due to highway engineering standards and more importantly reality.
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Re: And without a drop to 55mph [steve_] by kernick
Dec 12, 2008 (1:35 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 12, 2008 9:53 am)

edit - you still have power Kernick? Sounds like quite the ice storm up there
 
No, I lost power, but somehow my computer's still working. I think it's because we're saving our carbon credits, and the spirits of Earf looked kindly on our valley.
 
Kernick, move just a bit farther north to Quebec and you'll be both smart and legal.
 
They should also include a ban on white cars in winter, in that legislation! Much higher accident rate with white cars in the winter. I'd be okay there too - I have a red car.
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Re: And without a drop to 55mph [ruking1] by ruking1
Dec 14, 2008 (1:57 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 12, 2008 9:46 am)

Probably one of the more important metrics lacking in the projected 30,000 fatality count which remarkably is down from a more "normal" 43,000 fatality count is the all important "per capita measurement". However at first look -13,000 fatalities is a wonderful reversal. (normal PC boiler plate observed)
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Re: And without a drop to 55mph [ruking1] by cdn_tch
Dec 14, 2008 (4:40 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 14, 2008 1:57 pm)

Sorry, but it is not a 13K reversal. The 30,000 fatalities are for the first 9 months of '08 with some incomplete data for October. So the 12 month picture is still in the 40K range.
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Re: And without a drop to 55mph [cdn_tch] by ruking1
Dec 14, 2008 (4:43 pm)
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Replying to: cdn_tch (Dec 14, 2008 4:40 pm)

So why did you bring it up in the first place? A NON event!

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