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Should the US government bring back the 55 mph max speed limit again?

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Re: [euphonium] by fintail
Nov 13, 2008 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: euphonium (Nov 12, 2008 9:01 pm)

According to the link Steve posted, nations with major highways at 75mph (120 kmh) or more are Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bosnia, CZR, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Iran, Ireland, South Korea, Lithuania, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland,
Turkey, and Zimbabwe. And even the psychotic Orwellian nanny state of Great Britain has a 70mph limit, which is an insane speed in the eyes of some here.
 
Experience under all conditions can also discern when some favor a speed which is simply illogical and regressive.
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No speed limits for drivers by andres3
Nov 13, 2008 (8:42 am)
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that have not caused any at-fault accidents in over 5 years. There is no need to enforce speed limits on safe drivers, as they are not the ones causing accidents.
 
75-80 is a reasonable speed limit even for people that are older than the speed limit. For most people, the interstate/freeway/highway maximum speed limit should be 85.
 
Slowing down does not make anything safer. Slowing down does not reduce your risk of getting into an accident. However, if you do get into an accident, reducing your speed will lessen the severity of that accident. So by that logic, we should design our airplanes to fly 55 MPH in the air so that if there is a bad landing or takeoff people won't die?
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Re: No speed limits for drivers [andres3] by steve_ HOST
Nov 13, 2008 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: andres3 (Nov 13, 2008 8:42 am)

we should design our airplanes to fly 55 MPH
 
Alternatively, we could just train our car and truck drivers as well as pilots are trained.
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Re: No speed limits for drivers [steve_] by hammerhead
Nov 13, 2008 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 13, 2008 9:00 am)

Steve has hit the proverbial nail smack-dab on the proverbial head:
 
Train our drivers to a standard that makes interstate driving 'at speed' a non-event. No pass, no drive. Raise the bar.
 
Cheers!
Paul
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Raising the Bar by andres3
Nov 13, 2008 (9:19 am)
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I agree, raising the bar and having a driver's license mean something substantial other than identification would be a good revelation for this country.
 
The driver's tests in CA are a joke.
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Re: [fintail] by euphonium
Nov 13, 2008 (9:26 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Nov 13, 2008 8:24 am)

"regressive" is preferred to "agressive" & for those who prefer driving agressively at 80 mph, do it in the countries listed by Steve and while over there, apply for citizenship and stay there.
 
It is rude to expect others to get out of your way by keeping right of where you want to go agressively.
 
Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength. - Eric Hoffer
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Re: Raising the Bar [andres3] by steve_ HOST
Nov 13, 2008 (9:27 am)
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Replying to: andres3 (Nov 13, 2008 9:19 am)

Of course, you can get a general aviation sport license with a driver's license and 20 hours of flight training (i.e., a long weekend) and cause all sorts of havoc with your lawnmower powered ultralight.
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by maverickj
Nov 13, 2008 (9:38 am)
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i don't think its driving the 75-80 that's the problem. i think people just need to be cautious of their surrounding drivers. 75-80 is a fine speed to drive when not many cars are on the highway, but I think it is ridiculous to try and do the same and swerve in and out of lanes to do so. If the situation permits one to drive in that way, so be it! If it doesn't then obviously drive accordingly. I know that's the problem with speed limits. If they are high, then drivers assume that this is the speed they should be going at ALL times. there are factors we can' control and therefore are forced to drive slower. i guess in LA, the speed limit is the most irrelevant thing ever!!! to go the max. speed is something Angelinos are happy enough with!
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Re: comfortable speeds of 75-80 mph [kernick] by cdn_tch
Nov 13, 2008 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: kernick (Nov 13, 2008 6:10 am)

Yes on a multilane interstate, driving at 75-80 mph is the same skill level as driving at 55-60mph. You point the car straight, with slight turns of the wheel. Interstate driving is actually the safest and easiest, you'll find.
 
I guess this is where we differ on what is 'safe'.
 
Your definition is being able to follow the road at speed and not drive into the ditch.
 
My definition is that both the car and driver are capable of handling the speed when something goes wrong. Yes just about any imbecile can point a car in a straight line and do 80+ mph. Unfortunately there are precious few who have a feeling for the car they are in and would slow down if they had a sense that the car was losing downforce and starting to create lift, or realize that should a deer or other wildlife come up on the roadway how to best avoid a serious accident.
 
Airline pilots are trained in many worst case scenarios so they have the ability to get out of trouble. Airplanes are also certified for speed, and cars should be as well, not just how fast can it go, but rather how fast can it go with in its design specs (brakes, handling, aerodynamics).
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Re: [euphonium] by fintail
Nov 13, 2008 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: euphonium (Nov 13, 2008 9:26 am)

Regressive is the opposite of progressive, and driving 75-80 - speeds accepted by hundreds of millions of fellow humans on appropriate roads - has nothing to do with being "aggressive"...but nice deflection. Of course, one can't expect much progress from the irrelevant unwashed old crony capitalist pseudo-intellectuals of Clark county, the silent generation that has betrayed the world.
 
It is rude to impede the progress of others driving a completely reasonable speed, and insane to believe you have the means to do so. Keep your tired old sled in the right lane and let the people of today go past - this is where your recourse ends. The slow and backwards will keep right or wish they had.

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