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SUVs Acura MDX Pre-2007 Acuras All Flunk Rear-End Crash Tests
39 messages, Last post on Jul 19, 2008 at 7:41 AM
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Replying to: gordongordo (Dec 08, 2007 3:34 pm)
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Replying to: upstatedoc (Dec 09, 2007 8:57 am) Yes, according to the Acura service person I talked to --- and for that matter, the Costco tire specialist who looked at the donut and the prospect of a change --- a full-size will fit there, but you need, remember, to get the right size rim from Acura. Be sure to let them know whether you have a towing package or not. My rim will be delivered to the local Honda dealership in Santa Barbara later this week, and I'll take it and ride a few minutes to Costco for the tire and its hook up to the underneath part of the MDX at the rear. As for your wider question, I can't even tell you if that is an official Acura position --- in the sense that there is a TSB. All I know is that the GoldCost Acura rep said he was told about the tire-change by the company's service rep, but how effective it will be isn't clear. Acura's customer service, recall from an earlier post in this thread, didn't say anything about any sort of fix; said Acura claimed the vehicle was safe; repeated it after I mentioned then the possibility of legal liability in the event of injury in a rear-collision; refused even to give me the telephone number of a qualified engineer to talk to at the Acura plant; and said, finally, that Acura planned no other fix, seeing no need for one. I think the person you should ask your general query to is MeChing1, who posts volumes of messages on this Acura forum --- in the present case, with touchy indignation --- and has refused to answer my query whether he or she is paid by Acura to post here and elsewhere. Michael PS: Don't forget. The IIHS test of the dummy-sled in a rear-collision put the dummy's seat at a 25 degree backward slant. The more you can get into a perpendicular seat-position and keep your head as close to the head-restraint as you can, the better it seems you and I and others can withstand the 20 mile an hour collision. |
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Replying to: gordongordo (Dec 07, 2007 9:35 pm) 2. Since 2000, I believe the MDX and Pilot have been assembled at a plant in a remote part of Canada. Why would a design engineer be located at that plant? Most of Honda's design engineers are at facilities in Japan, California, and I think Ohio(?). So your request to speak with someone at the factory probably did not make sense to the customer rep. Now can you answer my question. How many vehicles can have their seats adjusted to where the driver feels comfortable - yet it is "unsafe" per the IIHS geometry criteria? And should I retain an attorney to sue Volkswagen because the seat in my 1967 Beetle cannot pass the IIHS test? |
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Upstate: I trust that you and others who have read this thread and have a pre-June 2007 MDX find some consolation in the only two tips for reducing any injury if you should be hit from behind while in your vehicle: 1) Try keeping your seat as perpendicular as you can, with the back of your head centered, as much as possible, grazing the head-restraint. 2) Try, despite the cost, replacing your donut spare-tire with a full-size Michelin Cross-Terrain, which requires that you also buy a rim for it from an Acura dealership. Right now, there seems nothing else to be done. Michael
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Replying to: gordongordo (Dec 10, 2007 4:07 pm)
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Replying to: dms9 (Dec 10, 2007 5:43 pm) The best fix, then --- the ideal that I first inquired about --- was whether we could swap our pre-June MDX seats (at my expense anyway) for the newer ones. The answer: no, they won't fit, the newer MDX's are redesigned and re-engineered, and those produced in the new 2007 model before June's production still weren't perfect. The two fixes I suggest are, then, surrogates: 1) Keep your seat perpendicular so that you can feel the back of your head brush lightly against the head-restraint (ask your passengers to do the same): more specifically, the center of your head's back should be more or less at or slightly above the center of the head-restraint (see the picture in the link at the start of this thread to the IIHS tests). 2) The other fix was, remember, told to me by the service guy at Acura Gold|Coast in Ventura, though he said it was Acura's service-rep who told him: get rid of the donut spare --- which is dangerous to use anyway --- and add a full-size Michelin Cross-Terrain. It will help absorb some of the crash energy. Be sure that you obtain the right rim from an Acura dealership for that new spare. Maybe others can think of some added make-shift fixes, but I can't. And don't expect any help from Acura itself. Michael
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Replying to: gordongordo (Dec 11, 2007 6:30 pm)
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Replying to: dms9 (Dec 12, 2007 3:04 pm) Michael
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Replying to: gordongordo (Dec 17, 2007 5:27 pm) |
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This topic has begun to concern me now that I realize I own two of the vehicles that did poorly in this test. Acura obviously realized there was something wrong w/ the head restraints on the early '07's because vehicles made after june '07 passed the test w/ flying colors. I decided to file an official complaint with the National Highway Traffic & Safety Administration. Just go to their website and do an online complaint. Maybe if enough people complain, Acura will do something.
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