- #819 of 905
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Re: 2009 could be the glorified year for Japanese-made Camry... [kiawah]
by kevlight
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Apr 08, 2009 (8:23 am)
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Replying to: kiawah (Oct 25, 2008 12:32 pm)
If you can get a Japanese made Camry maybe you should, my 2009 Camry SE (Shitty Experience) was built in Kentucky and it has a persistent rattle in the dashboard on the driver's side and another on the passenger side. I've taken it in twice to be fixed and the best they can offer is that plastic on plastic. I expect more from a $30,000 car. If I could have done it over again I wouldn't have purchased the car. Other things that I don't like about it: the "heated" seats only stay on for a minute at a time, the car shuts itself off after a couple minutes when started with the remote starter, the radio shuts off immediately after the car is shut off, the charger does not work when the car is off. If Toyota wants to buy this vehicle from back me, I would dump it in a heart beat.
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- #820 of 905
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Re: 2009 could be the glorified year for Japanese-made Camry... [kevlight]
by mcdawgg
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Apr 08, 2009 (8:31 am)
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Replying to: kevlight (Apr 08, 2009 8:23 am)
Try a different dealer re the dash rattle. There are TSBs out that the service dept. can use to fix the problem.
By the way, I have had a Japan-built Rav that had rattles. I got it fixed under warranty (there was a TSB out for it). Just saying that you can't say that Japan built = perfection. It is mainly in the original design.
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- #821 of 905
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Re: Any advice or experience with replacement tires for '07 to '09 LE V6? [lmacmil]
by exler
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Apr 08, 2009 (8:54 am)
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Replying to: lmacmil (Mar 19, 2009 8:11 am)
Any opinion on the Yokahoma Avid Touring S--dealer here sells for $90 with balancing and all? I think they are UTOG 600 rated. It looks like TIRE-RACK had good reports.
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- #822 of 905
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Re: 2009 could be the glorified year for Japanese-made Camry... [kevlight]
by dmathews3
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Apr 08, 2009 (8:54 am)
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Replying to: kevlight (Apr 08, 2009 8:23 am)
Your answer may be the last words in your last sentence. In a heart beat =Chevy. Seriously, on all the cars I have owned with heated seats they all stay on until I shut it off. Most were either 2 or 3 settings for heat so yours shouldn't shut off after a minute. Also same on remote starters. They all stayed on about 10 min. before shutting off with the option of 2nd start either after the 10 min for another 10 min. or if used during the orginal 10 min. whatever time was left would reset to 10 min. As far as radio goes that may have been an option that you don't have. Don't know what you are refering to by charger. Sounds like you have some problems with your car that a good dealer should be able to fix as they sound like they are all repeatable problems that can be duplicated everytime. The problem is finding a good dealer. I think Toyota is going down the road GM traveled in the 80's where they sold so many cars they couldn't keep up with them and sent them out the door hoping the dealer would find and fix any problems before the customers found them. I think GM has fixed their old problems and now build some of the best cars out there and Toyota may or may not wake up before they aquire the reputation of building shoddy cars. Even in these down times of most car companies sales being down 40% or more I see GM outsold Toyota by 20,000 cars in March. Its to bad all car companies are suffering from the greed of Wall Street and the Insurance companies. I sure hope GM doesn't have to resort to filing Bankrupsy as I'm afraid we will all end up in a depression from our current recession and millions more end up on welfare or unemployed.
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- #823 of 905
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Re: 2009 could be the glorified year for Japanese-made Camry... [kevlight]
by kiawah
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Apr 08, 2009 (10:46 am)
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Replying to: kevlight (Apr 08, 2009 8:23 am)
I don't have electric seats on my Camry, but my other vehicles with electric seats stay on until they are turned off. Did you have the dealer look at the seats, I'm betting something is defective with them.
I just pulled out the electrical schematics for the heated seats. There is no timer circuitry or anything like that, which would turn them off. The regular illuminated seat heater switch is to turn them on and off. There are two little unmarked things that look like a mini-switch which is in the seat cushion (two on the passenger seat, two on the drivers seat), which aren't clear what they are. They may be pressure switches, or thermal switches. For instance if it was a pressure switch, perhaps it won't turn on unless someone is sitting in the seat. If it was a thermal switch, it could make connection only when it's cold, and when it heats up it opens up to keep the seat from overheating.
I'd take it back to the dealership, they'll fix it for you.
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- #824 of 905
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Re: 2009 could be the glorified year for Japanese-made Camry... [kevlight]
by wwest
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Apr 08, 2009 (4:32 pm)
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Replying to: kevlight (Apr 08, 2009 8:23 am)
These days EVERYTHING gets counted insofar as fuel conservation is considered.
These days most seat heaters either have a thermistor for controlling the seat heating level or they have two thermostatic switches. The heating elements get MAXIMUM power only until the desired/designed surface temperature is reached. In the case of the thermostatic switches once the design temperature is reached the system goes into 1/4 power mode and even that will be shut off if the seat surface temperature rises above the temperature setpoint of the second switch.
With the thermistor once the design temperature is reached the power is simply switched on and off electronically to hold the seat at the design temperature.
The remote starter "feature" is perfectly understandable.
I've never owner a car wherein the radio didn't shut off when I turned the ignition completely off, didn't leave it in the accessory position.
Charger = power to the cigarette lighter plug...SOP.
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- #825 of 905
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Re: 2009 could be the glorified year for Japanese-made Camry... [kiawah]
by wwest
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Apr 08, 2009 (4:38 pm)
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Replying to: kiawah (Apr 08, 2009 10:46 am)
"..or thermal switches..."
Thermostatic switches, when the design temperature is reached one of these opens to put the heating element into 1/4 power mode. The second switch has an "overtemp" (discomforting) setpoint and therefore depowers the heater altogether. If/as the seat cools the switch will turn the power will come back on.
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- #826 of 905
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Re: 2009 could be the glorified year for Japanese-made Camry... [wwest]
by dmathews3
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Apr 09, 2009 (4:58 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Apr 08, 2009 4:32 pm)
I've never owner a car wherein the radio didn't shut off when I turned the ignition completely off, didn't leave it in the accessory position.
Lots of cars have this feature where a lot of the power is available for up to about 10 min. after turning the car off and goes off when a door is opened. You need to brooden your horizens as I had a number of cars with this feature.
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- #827 of 905
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Re: 2009 could be the glorified year for Japanese-made Camry... [dmathews3]
by wwest
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Apr 09, 2009 (8:23 am)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Apr 09, 2009 4:58 am)
Yes, for some 20 years now windows and headlights remain powered until the driver's door is opened, but I have never known (noticed??) that the radio did/does.
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- #828 of 905
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Re: 2009 could be the glorified year for Japanese-made Camry... [wwest]
by dmathews3
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Apr 09, 2009 (10:33 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Apr 09, 2009 8:23 am)
If windows remained powered you can bet the radio does too and I have had a couple cars where even the wipers work too. Headlights on all cars work even if key isn't in the ign. Hence, why so many car batteries run down. 
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