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Re: 09 transmission update [bjosephs] by wwest
Mar 16, 2009 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: bjosephs (Mar 16, 2009 3:19 am)

Most, the MAJORITY, of TSBs only "apply" under specific customer complaints. If the customer doesn't complain then the problem doesn't exist. If the customer becomes aware of a TSB they will undoubtedly become more conscious, easier to notice, and may even "invent" complaints.
 
Best to keep the customer in the dark.
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Re: V6 or I4?? [guntherhops] V-6 hands down - it much quieter & smoother [paul3637] by berri
Mar 16, 2009 (10:10 am)
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Replying to: paul3637 (Mar 15, 2009 4:17 am)

My V6 gets 36 mpg on the highway
 
I had the previous gen Camry V6. It certainly was a smooth drivetrain and hard to tell from a V8. Even with premium though, I don't think it quite meets the Lexus specs. However, I never got better than 27 or so on the Interstate at 70-75. In town it got 16-17. Premium runs at least 20 cents a gallon more than regular so you want to do the math before you automatically use it since its not required on Camry V6, only Lexus.
 
I've got a 4 cyl current gen Camry right now. I've found it quite smooth and comfortable on the highway and in town. No harshness, and only loud on very steep hill climbing. It gets 21 or so in town and around 33 on the Interstate at 70-75.
 
My take is the V6 gives you an almost luxury car feel, but the I4 is more than adequate for most needs. So it boils down to a tradeoff of drivetrain luxury versus a couple of grand more in price out the door. However, if you are going to load up a V6 XLE, you should also look at a Lexus 350 deal right now as well. The Lexus seating is nicer and you get a bunch of the difference in price back at trade in.
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Re: I wanted advice / go back and ready my first paragraph.of post #771 [paul3637] by kdhspyder
Mar 16, 2009 (12:13 pm)
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Replying to: paul3637 (Mar 14, 2009 8:04 am)

Just so that you're aware of the differentiation. Tires are the one feature of any car from any manufacturer that is not covered by the various manufacturers' warranties. The tires are the sole responsibility of the tire maker.
 
This is why at the time of delivery you get a separate tire warranty from Firestone/Bridgestone or Goodyear or Michelin. Tires have nothing to do with Honda or Toyota or GM or Ford or any maker.
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the new 2010's have arrived. by kdhspyder
Mar 16, 2009 (12:24 pm)
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For those shopping it's worthwhile to make sure to drive one of the remaining '09s and then one of the new '10s back to back.
 
The new 2AR 2.5L engine in the 2010 is far far different than the 2AZ 2.4L engine in the 2009. It's more powerful and more fuel efficient and quieter all at the same time. This is the final engine to be converted from 1990's technology, the 'Z-family' of engines, to the new dual VVTi technology of this decade in the R-family of engines. The changeover for the entire product lineup is complete now.
 
The next step should be the inclusion of Valvematic technology beginning soon in the smaller autos. This should bring another boost in both power and fuel economy.
 
Also VSC comes standard in the 2010s.
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Re: I wanted advice / go back and ready my first paragraph.of post #771 [kdhspyder] by berri
Mar 16, 2009 (3:52 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Mar 16, 2009 12:13 pm)

Tires have nothing to do with Honda or Toyota or GM or Ford or any maker.
 
Except those companies pick some of the cheapo pathetic OEM tires they put on the vehicles in the first place. I don't know about you, but I'd sure rather pay a couple hundred more on a $20K+ car and get decent quality tires.
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Re: I wanted advice / go back and ready my first paragraph.of post #771 [berri] by dmathews3
Mar 16, 2009 (4:22 pm)
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Replying to: berri (Mar 16, 2009 3:52 pm)

First thing I do when buying a new car is before I ever take it home I head to my local Discount Tire store and they always give me at least 1/2 of what the OEM tires are worth and they have good deals on almost any tire you would desire. Plus they give free repairs, rotation and balances for as long as you own the car with the tires plus I pay a little extra and get their warranty which means they replace the tires if they can't be safely repaired. On my wifes last CAddy I hit a chuck hole that put a big bubble on the sidewall and they replaced it with a new $200 tire even though the tires were only a week old. Spend all that money on a new car may as well be happy and it will be a whole lot cheaper than the dealer/stealer with do it for.
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post #791 [dmathews3 - I wish I had your advice when I bought my car by paul3637
Mar 18, 2009 (5:54 pm)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Mar 16, 2009 4:22 pm)

Let this be a message to others. I am paying now $1500 to replace tires and wheels which is more than it would have cost me to just buy a Camry SE V6 with Michelin tires in the first place. I just renewed my insurance and paid my premium 3 weeks before it is due. When I talked to my insurance agent about this issue because I wanted to insure the new wheels, it turns out he has an 08 Camry SE V6 and he told me he searched the lot for one with Michelin tires but acted like he did not know how the difference. Bottom Line: If you buy a Camry V6 LE, plan on spending any savings on a great deal on your next set of tires if it comes with Bridgestone Turanza tires.
 
Side note: He said he also uses pemium or mid range gas to get better gas mileage - as do I - which more than pays for itself in better gas mileage than regular.
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Re: Find a guy who does nuthin but tires!!! [exler] by lmacmil
Mar 19, 2009 (8:03 am)
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Replying to: exler (Feb 09, 2009 11:09 am)

My 2005 SE came with Bridgestone EL400s. I just replaced them at 30,000 miles because one blew (1" crack in the casing) after hitting something in the street. They had at most a few thousand miles left on them.
 
I bought Kumho Ecsta LX Platinums. Neither the cheapest nor most expensive but with decent Tire Rack reviews, a 600 treadwear rating (compared to 260 for the EL400s), and a $50 AMEX gift card rebate from Tire Rack. So far so good with about 300 miles on them.
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Re: Any advice or experience with replacement tires for '07 to '09 LE V6? [paul3637] by lmacmil
Mar 19, 2009 (8:11 am)
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Replying to: paul3637 (Mar 14, 2009 1:39 am)

I just got a set of Kumho Ecsta LX Platinums for my 2005 SE V6. I got 30K miles out of the Turanzas. Paid $580 installed at Tire Rack (which is 7 miles away). I wasn't willing to spend the extra bucks for the Michelins or Yokos. The Kumhos have a UTOG 600 rating.
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Re: V6 or I4?? [guntherhops] V-6 hands down - it much quieter & smoother [paul3637] [berri] by lmacmil
Mar 19, 2009 (8:22 am)
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Replying to: berri (Mar 16, 2009 10:10 am)

I had the previous gen Camry V6. ... Even with premium though, I don't think it quite meets the Lexus specs. However, I never got better than 27 or so on the Interstate at 70-75. In town it got 16-17.
 
I have the 3.3L V6 in my 2005 SE. Last summer I got 28.5 mpg on a 2600 mile trip by watching my speed. On the same trip two years earlier, I got 27.5 but I was driving slightly faster on average.
 
If you keep it at 72 or below, you can get decent mileage. I have also experimented with premium vs regular and have concluded there there is no extra mileage from premium.
 
I believe either 1) Toyota tweaks the Lexus ES V6 a little to give it a couple more hp than the Camry V6 and that tweak requires premium or 2) premium gives it a couple more hp but they have to require premium to claim the increase hp. Of course, I could be wrong on both counts.

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