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Re: transmission issues still a problem in 09 camry? [ls09]
by exler
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Jan 14, 2009 (12:00 pm)
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Replying to: ls09 (Jan 14, 2009 9:24 am)
Take the car out for a good test drive--maybe one hour--on a slight hill under low acceleration at a constant 30 or 40 mph see if the engine lugs--you will feel a slight vibration (shudder) if the problem still exists. If not the problem has been taken care of in the new models. There is a service bulletin to take care of this in the 07-08's. No problems if you accelerate right through from 0-50 but only if if you hold it at constant 30 or 40 as stated above. I never had any 3-4 second delay problem in my 08--4--AT. I agree you do not want transmission problems in a new car.
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- #700 of 907
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Re: transmission issues still a problem in 09 camry? [exler]
by ls09
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Jan 14, 2009 (12:10 pm)
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Replying to: exler (Jan 14, 2009 12:00 pm)
thank you that's very helpful!
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- #701 of 907
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Re: transmission issues still a problem in 09 camry? [ls09]
by exler
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Jan 14, 2009 (12:32 pm)
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Replying to: ls09 (Jan 14, 2009 12:10 pm)
Please post your response if the 09 is better and you test drive an 09--I would like to know for future reference if Toyota has taken care of these problems. In my opinion I liked the 4-speed transmission better that was in my 02 Camry. Thanks.
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- #702 of 907
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Re: transmission issues still a problem in 09 camry? [ls09]
by mcdawgg
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Jan 14, 2009 (7:35 pm)
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Replying to: ls09 (Jan 14, 2009 9:24 am)
The TSB's that have been out for a while have solved the problems of hesitation and the lugging, according to what I've read here and another Toyota only site. I can say from my experience with my '07 Camry that TSB 068-08 completely solved the hesitation problem, and this applies to both manual and automatics. The fix was just a simple 25 minute new software download (under warranty, of course.) The new Camrys being built after that TSB have the new software. The other problem did not affect me because I have a manual tranny, but I remember reading about it and the fact that there was a TSB issued for it also, so the new cars coming off the assembly line already have that correction. Bottom line - you won't have any problems.
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- #703 of 907
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Re: transmission issues still a problem in 09 camry? [exler]
by wwest
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Jan 15, 2009 (10:26 am)
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Replying to: exler (Jan 14, 2009 12:32 pm)
Unless one knows how to incur/cause the 1-2 second delay/hesitation it is likely not possible for a single test drive to prove, or disprove, that this problem still exists. Last fall I rented a new Camry to drive from Little Rock to Memphis and experimented with this "effect". It was only under VERY specific circumstances wherein I could cause the 1-2 second downshift delay/hesitation to "repeat".
During coastdowns from 40-30MPH, or 10-0MPH resulting from a simple lift throttle action, followed quickly by FIRM re-application of pressure to the gas pedal was the specific requirement, but even that was not predictably repeatable.
It was clear to me that most of the time these occurances would be, might be, totally unexpected, apparent happenstance.
My reading of post 698 regarding the upcoming 2010 RX350 indicates clearly that Toyota and Lexus transaxles still have this problem.
The statement infers that if the driver is aware in advance that a quick move to re-acceleration is probable the the driver can indicate so to the TCM via actions with the accelerator pedal. If you KNOW, in advance, that you will require QUICK acceleration immediately AFTER a short period of coastdown then the appropriate action is to RAPIDLY lift, FULLY lift, the accelerator pedal.
That specific action will indicate to the TCM that it is NOT to command a tranasaxle upshift as it would normally for a coastdown period. The procedure might require some practice but can be accomplished.
But...
That does not addess the times, situations, wherein the driver may not be aware of the "future".
So my advice would be to only purchase Toyota/Lexus FWD or F/awd vehicles with manual/sequential shift capability. Then, each and every time you enter a coastdown period simply downshift the transaxle manually(***) in preparation for the potential of the need for a quick re-acceleration action.
*** But never, NEVER downshift absent being sure, CERTAIN sure, of the road surface being highly TRACTIVE. "This" is a FWD and/or F/awd and so engine compression braking, even slight engine compression braking, due to a downshift can lead too quickly to loss of control and a serious accident.
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- #704 of 907
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Re: transmission issues still a problem in 09 camry? [wwest]
by exler
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Jan 15, 2009 (12:26 pm)
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Replying to: wwest (Jan 15, 2009 10:26 am)
I can only duplicate in my vehicle what apparently is addressed by TSB-0069-08--that is the shudder-vibration issue. I have no problem with a hesitation--delay issue in my 08 automatic. If I give it a good throttle from 0-50mph there is no shudder-vibration problem--only if hold it steady in the 30-45 range--then it may lug--apparently looking for a lower gear ratio. Thanks for any other info.
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- #705 of 907
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Re: transmission issues still a problem in 09 camry? [mcdawgg]
by atb2
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Jan 15, 2009 (6:52 pm)
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Replying to: mcdawgg (Jan 14, 2009 7:35 pm)
My '09 I4 AT with almost 8k has not had any of these problems. Toyota has addressed these issues. Does anyone know if higher-mileage units with this 5sp AT are having failures? There must be a few out there pushing 100k.
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- #707 of 907
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Re: transmission issues still a problem in 09 camry? [atb2]
by exler
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Jan 21, 2009 (1:18 pm)
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Replying to: atb2 (Jan 15, 2009 6:52 pm)
Good question on the transmission. Also what type of mileage can I expect from my Bridgestone Turanza EL 400's in mainly city driving and not being a leadfoot?
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- #708 of 907
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toyota camry le 2009 help required
by auppal80
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Jan 21, 2009 (7:30 pm)
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I am looking for toyota ccamry 2009 LE in austin texas. What would be the best deal you think i can get? right now i have a deal for $20k including tax
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