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904 messages, Last post on Nov 17, 2009 at 8:03 AM

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#617 of 904 Re: Vibrations in D? [exler] by notmybmw Dec 09, 2008 (8:41 am)
Replying to: exler (Dec 09, 2008 8:19 am) What I do is just "take matters into my own hands"....or "hand" as it were....and just give the shift leaver a little 'slap' to the left, which puts it into 4th gear (you'll SEE the engine speed increase slightly on the tach, AND no longer hear the 'grumbling' from the engine)......and when I hit the open road, just tap it back over to the right, back into 5th, to get that all important overdrive MPG advantage. I've noticed my BMW does this all by itself (downshifts to 4th or even 3rd when it detects a drop in roadspeed, even though you are neither accelerating nor deccelerating.....is that a word?.......slowing down!) but I've learned to accept that the Camry just won't do a few things that the twice-as-expensive 325i will. (Like automatically aim the passenger side outside mirror down toward the curb when reversing...in order to prevent tire scuffing!!....then return to normal when put into Drive or Neutral.) Trust those Krauts! The Japanese could do it, I'm sure.....probably DO on some upscale models....but you gotta limit the frills somewhere on a $20K family sedan. So, in a nutshell.....accept the technical limitations of the Toyota transmission engineering team.......and have fun doing some shifting for them!!! Cheers. Scotty Replies to this message: atb2 (Dec 09, 2008 12:38 pm) exler (Dec 10, 2008 1:32 pm) mcdawgg (Dec 10, 2008 1:55 pm) and 2 more... wwest (Dec 09, 2008 4:21 pm)
#618 of 904 Re: Vibrations in D? [notmybmw] by atb2 Dec 09, 2008 (12:38 pm)
Replying to: notmybmw (Dec 09, 2008 8:41 am) but you gotta limit the frills somewhere on a $20K family sedan. So, in a nutshell.....accept the technical limitations of the Toyota transmission engineering team.......and have fun doing some shifting for them!!! Right on the mark IMHO. My '09 I4 auto has some of the same trans symptoms/behavior as mentioned throughout this forum. Although the shifting is not perfect, I remind myself to look at the whole picture (car, in this instance) and in that light, the car is superior to most others in the $$ range. I thought about getting the TSB loaded; here's my thought: since I've worked with/on computers for many years, I would hesitate modifying the factory software load. These issues were supposedly corrected in previous MY's and, once the TSB is applied, there's no going back. "NOTE: Software version 3.00.021 or later is required." and "Recalibrate ECM (PCM) Engine & Transmission" as stated in the TSB instructions. Careful what you wish for, it might not live up to what you're expecting. My car now has 4k miles. While pondering whether to have the TSB done, I decided to replace the factory air filter with a $19.99 Purolator from Pep Boys. That was about a thousand miles ago and I am convinced it acts more normal now and runs/shifts better. Could I be dreaming? Maybe, but don't think so and I feel better knowing the ECM (PCM) hasn't been plugged into by a tech that may or may not be experienced in this area. Replies to this message: exler (Dec 10, 2008 1:32 pm) mcdawgg (Dec 10, 2008 1:55 pm) cubssoxs (Dec 10, 2008 2:38 pm) waltchan (Dec 10, 2008 9:36 pm)
#619 of 904 Re: Vibrations in D? [notmybmw] by wwest Dec 09, 2008 (4:21 pm)
Replying to: notmybmw (Dec 09, 2008 8:41 am) "..my BMW...." Is either RWD or R/AWD.... It would be patently unsafe for a FWD or F/AWD to automatically downshift at at, to, a level that might incur a significant level of engine compression braking, even insignificant should the roadbed be slippery..
#620 of 904 Re: Vibrations in D? [exler] by kiawah Dec 10, 2008 (1:00 pm)
Replying to: exler (Dec 09, 2008 8:19 am) Take it back to the dealership with your symptoms, and tell them you found a copy of that TSB on the internet which sounds like it addresses the problem. They'll search their computer and hook your car up, and I'm sure they'll put the TSB on to resolve it. Your vehicle will run better and that lugging problem will be long forgotten. Takes about 1/2 hour, covered under warranty. Replies to this message: mcdawgg (Dec 10, 2008 1:10 pm) exler (Dec 10, 2008 1:55 pm)
#621 of 904 Re: Vibrations in D? [kiawah] by mcdawgg Dec 10, 2008 (1:10 pm)
Replying to: kiawah (Dec 10, 2008 1:00 pm) Kiawah is right, and if you are nervous about changing the computer programming of the ECM, remember this: All the new Camrys coming off the line today have this new programming. Also, I have not read about anyone here or other websites that was not happy about having the TSB done. Please let us know how much better it drives after you have it done . Replies to this message: exler (Dec 10, 2008 1:55 pm)
#622 of 904 Re: Vibrations in D? [atb2] by exler Dec 10, 2008 (1:32 pm)
Replying to: atb2 (Dec 09, 2008 12:38 pm) Thanks, I will try that air filter remedy--also a Service Manager echoed your comment that doing that TSB could change the shift points to something one may not like. I would think your 09 would have all the new ECM's already done at the factory as I see they were available in 5-08 for previous models. I have an 08 built in 9-07. Any transmission , engine changes or style changes coming in the 2010's, anyone? Replies to this message: mcdawgg (Dec 10, 2008 1:55 pm) cubssoxs (Dec 10, 2008 2:38 pm) waltchan (Dec 10, 2008 9:36 pm)
#623 of 904 Re: Vibrations in D? [mcdawgg] by exler Dec 10, 2008 (1:55 pm)
Replying to: mcdawgg (Dec 10, 2008 1:10 pm) I am going to re-question this Service Manager to get more exact detail --he says customers have returned after the TSB is done and they do not like the new shift points and he cannot change it back. I agree with your logic that the new Camrys have all had this done so it makes common sense that it is a good idea. I have spoken to the Managers at other dealers in the area and they have little idea of what I am talking about. I will keep you posted. Thanks for the input.
#624 of 904 Re: Vibrations in D? [exler] by mcdawgg Dec 10, 2008 (1:55 pm)
Replying to: exler (Dec 10, 2008 1:32 pm) Rumor is the 2010 may have a new 2.5 L I4 engine and 6 speed tranny. Replies to this message: cubssoxs (Dec 10, 2008 2:38 pm) waltchan (Dec 10, 2008 9:36 pm)
#625 of 904 Re: Vibrations in D? [mcdawgg] by cubssoxs Dec 10, 2008 (2:38 pm)
Replying to: mcdawgg (Dec 10, 2008 1:55 pm) Yeah, I heard the 2010 camry will have that 2.5 L I4 engine that is in the 2009 RAV4.
#626 of 904 Re: Vibrations in D? [mcdawgg] by waltchan Dec 10, 2008 (9:36 pm)
Replying to: mcdawgg (Dec 10, 2008 1:55 pm) The engine has been confirmed by one of Toyota reps at Toyota headquarter, but not yet on the 6 speed transmission. See the 2010 Toyota Camry thread.

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