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Re: [waltchan] by dmathews3
Dec 07, 2008 (12:28 pm)
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Replying to: waltchan (Dec 05, 2008 5:23 pm)

while waiting for an oil change for my rare, Japanese-made 2009 Camry, Still at it I see on the other forums though you tried telling us that wasn't so.
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Re: [wwest] by wwest
Dec 07, 2008 (6:55 pm)
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Replying to: wwest (Dec 07, 2008 8:57 am)

Oops....!!
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Re: [dmathews3] by pat HOST
Dec 08, 2008 (5:16 am)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Dec 07, 2008 12:28 pm)

Let's move on, please.
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Re: [wwest] by exler
Dec 08, 2008 (2:08 pm)
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Replying to: wwest (Dec 07, 2008 8:57 am)

Thanks WWEST for the reply---How can I rid the vehicle of this mechanical resonance?---- As I am not too mechanically inclined I need more explanation regarding that issue-- I do not know if that TSB-0069-08 would have any value regarding correction of this matter--I read that TSB relates to vibration issues between 30-45 mph . I never had this issue with my 02 - 4 cylinder---4 speed automatic . I take it from your post you do not feel this 4 is a good match with a 5-speed automatic. Thanks for the input on this matter.
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Re: [exler] by wwest
Dec 08, 2008 (3:02 pm)
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Replying to: exler (Dec 08, 2008 2:08 pm)

The "Oops" was intended as my way of saying I'm sorry for reading your post entirely "backwards" ("D" vs "4th"). So ignore my thoughts/suggestions.
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Re: Vibrations in D? [notmybmw] by exler
Dec 09, 2008 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: notmybmw (Dec 07, 2008 9:08 am)

Thanks,notmybmw----I did your prescribed test and at 50 mph my vehicle shows about 1500 rpm. Do you have any thoughts if doing that TSB 0069-08 regarding the flash reprogramming will help this situation?--I know this TSB targets the 30-45 mph range where I also will get vibration at low acceleration( vehicle lugs). If I accelerate at a good pace through the shift points in "D" there is no problem or if I drive in "4". Did adding the 5th gear in this transmission cause this problem? My gas mileage is around 20-21 in the city and about 31 highway. I guess that is average. Thanks for your input. It is appreciated.
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Re: Vibrations in D? [exler] by notmybmw
Dec 09, 2008 (8:41 am)
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Replying to: exler (Dec 09, 2008 8:19 am)

What I do is just "take matters into my own hands"....or "hand" as it were....and just give the shift leaver a little 'slap' to the left, which puts it into 4th gear (you'll SEE the engine speed increase slightly on the tach, AND no longer hear the 'grumbling' from the engine)......and when I hit the open road, just tap it back over to the right, back into 5th, to get that all important overdrive MPG advantage.
 
I've noticed my BMW does this all by itself (downshifts to 4th or even 3rd when it detects a drop in roadspeed, even though you are neither accelerating nor deccelerating.....is that a word?.......slowing down!) but I've learned to accept that the Camry just won't do a few things that the twice-as-expensive 325i will. (Like automatically aim the passenger side outside mirror down toward the curb when reversing...in order to prevent tire scuffing!!....then return to normal when put into Drive or Neutral.)
 
Trust those Krauts! The Japanese could do it, I'm sure.....probably DO on some upscale models....but you gotta limit the frills somewhere on a $20K family sedan. So, in a nutshell.....accept the technical limitations of the Toyota transmission engineering team.......and have fun doing some shifting for them!!!
 
Cheers.
Scotty
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Re: Vibrations in D? [notmybmw] by atb2
Dec 09, 2008 (12:38 pm)
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Replying to: notmybmw (Dec 09, 2008 8:41 am)

but you gotta limit the frills somewhere on a $20K family sedan. So, in a nutshell.....accept the technical limitations of the Toyota transmission engineering team.......and have fun doing some shifting for them!!!
 
Right on the mark IMHO. My '09 I4 auto has some of the same trans symptoms/behavior as mentioned throughout this forum. Although the shifting is not perfect, I remind myself to look at the whole picture (car, in this instance) and in that light, the car is superior to most others in the $$ range. I thought about getting the TSB loaded; here's my thought: since I've worked with/on computers for many years, I would hesitate modifying the factory software load. These issues were supposedly corrected in previous MY's and, once the TSB is applied, there's no going back. "NOTE: Software version 3.00.021 or later is required." and "Recalibrate ECM (PCM) Engine & Transmission" as stated in the TSB instructions. Careful what you wish for, it might not live up to what you're expecting. My car now has 4k miles. While pondering whether to have the TSB done, I decided to replace the factory air filter with a $19.99 Purolator from Pep Boys. That was about a thousand miles ago and I am convinced it acts more normal now and runs/shifts better. Could I be dreaming? Maybe, but don't think so and I feel better knowing the ECM (PCM) hasn't been plugged into by a tech that may or may not be experienced in this area.
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Re: Vibrations in D? [notmybmw] by wwest
Dec 09, 2008 (4:21 pm)
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Replying to: notmybmw (Dec 09, 2008 8:41 am)

"..my BMW...."
 
Is either RWD or R/AWD....
 
It would be patently unsafe for a FWD or F/AWD to automatically downshift at at, to, a level that might incur a significant level of engine compression braking, even insignificant should the roadbed be slippery..
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Re: Vibrations in D? [exler] by kiawah
Dec 10, 2008 (1:00 pm)
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Replying to: exler (Dec 09, 2008 8:19 am)

Take it back to the dealership with your symptoms, and tell them you found a copy of that TSB on the internet which sounds like it addresses the problem. They'll search their computer and hook your car up, and I'm sure they'll put the TSB on to resolve it. Your vehicle will run better and that lugging problem will be long forgotten. Takes about 1/2 hour, covered under warranty.

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