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Toyota Camry, Sedan
#523 of 1079 Re: [lucky_777]
Oct 28, 2008 (10:05 pm)
I measured with only four different cars, two Japanese-made and two USA-made, and all are 4-cylinders. 5% quieter means nothing at all and is a very small number. Both are very quiet and 99% of people will not notice any noise difference. On the other hand, I have excellent hearing and eyesight (very talented in this field) and can notice the difference very easily. The Japanese-made Camrys appear to use smoother bearings in their engines. They use Made in Japan Denso motors. The USA-made Camry use Made in USA Denso motors.
There is a white-sticker that shows 75% of parts/components are made in USA or Canada in Japanese-made Camrys. I absolutely totally disagree with what the sticker says. When I looked inside the engine hood, I don't know how many times I saw "Made in Japan" in almost every engine part components, including the AC refrigerant, fan, battery, belt, radiator, gasket, power steering motor, alternator, etc... The USA-made Camry only has two or three parts that are Made in Japan, and everything else is Made in USA or Canada. The seats in my Camry have the sticker underneath printed "Made in Japan", as well as the seat belts, light bulb, carpet, glove compartment, windows (Nippon), front and rear bumpers, and etc. The only part that is not Made in Japan is tires. I think the white-sticker is a joke by Toyota. Most importantly, the new car interior smell is completely different scent between the two. Different scent means different parts manufacturer. My Camry is almost 100% Japan-built (probably 90%). No, I'm not kidding, although I believe many people will disagree with me.
My Camry was made in Toyota's Tsutsumi plant in Toyota City, Aichi, Japan, the same plant were Toyota Prius are made since 2004. The Prius has consitently rated very high in reliability by Consumer Reports since 2004 and scored better than Camry and Corolla. The early Prius wasn't made in the Tsutsumi plant and had more problems.
I'm excited to drive this car everyday. My main reason for buying a Camry is not because Camry is affordable and refined, but it's the most rarest and exotic new vehicle I can find for under $20,000. I originally wanted a Honda Accord, but the rep at Honda headquarter told me that Japanese-made Accords will not end at anytime soon, so I went for a Camry instead because Japanese-made Camrys are getting harder and harder to find every year (excluding hybrids), indicating there will be a final year very soon. Toyota already announced two years ago that they are trying their best to eliminate all Japanese imports after the Subaru Lafayatte, Indiana plant goes into full operation. So far, the Lafayatte plant is only 70% in full operation with the remaining 30% still under construction in their expansion field zone.
#524 of 1079 Re: [waltchan]
Oct 29, 2008 (5:46 am)
wow, "smoother bearings", that really makes a difference. I'm sure "75% content of US parts" sticker on your Japanese made Camry was installed only to fool customs and didn't account for Japanese air in tires and inside of the cabin. I'm sure Japanese air in your tires makes ride cushier and makes your car to smell better inside . I'm also glad to hear that you consider your Camry to be "the most rarest and exotic new vehicle"... come on ... stop this nonsense.
#525 of 1079 Strange noise at 60 kms
Oct 29, 2008 (6:16 am)
My month old Camry makes a strange growling noise when it runs at 60 kms and you're stady on the gas. Almost sounds like the engine is bogging when driving a stick. It goes away as soon as you get off the gas or give it a bit more.
Anyone have this problem and know what it is?
#526 of 1079 Re: 2009 Camry LE - extended warranty [kay23]
Oct 29, 2008 (7:25 am)
So, right off the bat, Kay, you knew your dealer was a money-grubbing liar, since he told you the extended warranty HAD to be purchased within 30 days......and Toyota told you otherwise!
How'd THAT make you feel about buying a car from those guys? You still did it? I assume there wasn't another Toyota dealer within a hundred miles? You can purchase almost any car anywhere these days and still have it serviced at your local dealer. (although in THIS case.....why would you go near the liar with a ten-foot pole?)
Where are you, anyway? I'm curious to see/hear how your new car is working out. Was that you who mentioned grinding while going in to first gear? Is this an automatic we're talking about?
#527 of 1079 Re: [kiawah]
Oct 29, 2008 (9:11 am)
Anyone had the TSB 0069-08 done regarding the vibration problem between 30-45 mph on a 4 cylinder LE when doing minimal acceleration in this range. Did it help rectify the problem?
#528 of 1079 Re: [exler] and TSB 0069-08 for vibration
Oct 29, 2008 (9:22 am)
What model years does this "anti-vibration" TSB apply to? Some TSBs cover several years, like the 0068-08, for example.
Also, does anyone have the number for the Canadian equivalent TSB, assuming there IS one?
#529 of 1079 Re: [exler]
Oct 29, 2008 (10:37 am)
yes absolutely...get it done, it takes 1/2 hour and no charge under warranty
#530 of 1079 Re: [kiawah]
Oct 29, 2008 (11:25 am)
I assume you had it done lately---does it remove that vibration completely? Was there any hassle with the dealer where you had to demonstrate it on the road as mine will only do it in particular circumstance and I do not want to drive it all over the county to try to show them--in other words did they take your word that it happens??? Thanks.
#531 of 1079 Re: [exler]
Oct 29, 2008 (11:46 am)
removes it completely.
I walked in, handed a copy of the TSB (great dealership and working relationship), said I needed that since I had the vibration, done deal.
Schedule an appointment, tell them you have symptoms (that read similar to the TSB). Tell them you were doing some internet research, and found this TSB , which 'may' address the problem.
They'll read the TSB, put your VIN number into the computer to check that it applies to your vehicle, and then do the TSB.
It's really easy.
#532 of 1079 Re: [kiawah]
Oct 29, 2008 (12:04 pm)
Thanks for the info on this situation-- it is appreciated---Is there any way to get this complete TSB on the internet---I saw it on the NHTSA board on Service Bulletins but it just give the basics on what it addressed and it cannot be copied.