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Replying to: mackabee (Dec 25, 2007 4:26 pm)
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Replying to: gooddeal2 (Dec 25, 2007 5:18 pm) An 08 will look just like an 09 if there are no changes to the exterior which I don't expect there to be. But then again we don't know that for sure. So what brings you to the Camry forum? Mack 
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Replying to: mackabee (Dec 25, 2007 5:27 pm) 
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I am ready to buy a new 2008 Camry but with all the problems discussed in various forums and Consumer Reports with engine hesitation and transmission issues on the V6 I am in "hold mode". In fact I was about ready to go with the 2008 Honda Accord until I saw this update on the 2009 Camry. Do you think these problems have been addressed on the 2009? Retiredtech
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Replying to: retiredtech (Jan 01, 2008 9:58 am) Mack
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Replying to: mackabee (Jan 01, 2008 11:02 am) The I4-5 speed problem was resolved with the TSB for performance. |
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| Does anyone have information on what if any changes in color the 09 will have? It seems that the Desert Sand color, particularly in the 08 models of the XLE, is difficult to find. I wonder if the color is being phased out for a similar color that currently exist on the newly designed highlander? | |
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The 2009 Camry will arrive in showrooms mid February, Look for no changes in the car, other than the price increase. |
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Replying to: mackabee (Jan 01, 2008 11:02 am) Perhaps you should take a WIDER view. I noticed that you said once before that NONE of your customers ever had or complained of these problems and then when challenged on the issue you admitted that you had heard from others of the continuing complaints.
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In order to eliminate, alleviate, the 1-2 second transaxle downshift delay/hesitation the '08 MY engine /transaxle ECU control firmware has been revised to recognize the rate at which the gas pedal is released. Apparently a QUICK gas pedal release will indicate a desire to slow the vehicle more rapidly and therefore it will be more likely to remain in a lower gear, the current lower gear. On the other hand a slow gas pedal release will indicate the driver's intent to enter cruising mode and therefore the transaxle will likely upshift as normal. As I have said before, the problem arises when the vehicle has been operating in a lower gear range, say for moderate acceleration, then the driver goes into a brief full lift throttle period, coastdown, and then re-applies throttle to return to the acceleration mode. Such as might often happen in an acceleration lane of a freeway. The smallish (for FE) ATF pump cannot supply enough flow for two quick sequential shift sequences, especially with the engine at idle as a result of the full lift throttle period. So the idea, new "fix", is to try and detect, sense, the driver's intent by recognizing the rate at which the gas pedal is released. The difference between QUICK and SLOW...?? Probably a LEARNED driver style/technique parameter once you start the car in motion and continuing, continuous relearning, until you turn the ignition key off. I would imagine that for most driver's this "new feature" will undoubtedly result in reducing substantially the number of times the 1-2 second delay/hesitation symptom is encountered. The shift flare.... It looks as if the fill level of the transaxle might have been the problem all along. The new transaxles are sealed, no dipstick, and the instructions for dealer drain/refill clearly imply that the fill level, under or over, is EXTREMELY critical. The instructions imply that the fill level, adjusted according to current ATF temperature, must be correct within 200ml, about a fifth of a quart. I suspect the dipstick has been removed to take the DIY owner/driver, or anyone unknowledgeable of the correct procedure, out of the loop. |
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