Article Comments - Cadillac V-Series: V for Vexation

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Cadillac V-Series: V for Vexation - The V-Series cars have garnered mixed reviews since Cadillac introduced the original CTS-V in 2004. The V-Series idea began with the Cadillac Northstar LMP racing sports car that went to the 24 Hours of Le Mans in 2000 - 2002, and then found its expression in the CTS-V that entered the SCCA's Speed GT racing championship in 2004 and then won the championship in 2005-'07. Yet for every person who wanted the V-Series to be a racing car, another suggested that a luxury car in the style of a Mercedes-Benz AMG might be a better answer. (more)

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#11 of 12 Re: Quality counts [kqqlv] by cdnpinhead Mar 21, 2009 (1:17 pm)
Replying to: kqqlv (Mar 21, 2009 12:53 pm) Paragraphs are good. They help the reader follow the logic of the post and the train of thought, assuming either exists. That said, I did plow through. The CTS has had rear-end troubles and a number of other less-significant issues over the years. These are facts. Even so, it appears to be generally recognized as being a worthy vehicle. These are not good times to be marketing an upscale status toy, regardless of the make. If you want to discuss snob appeal, the Cadillac will come up short most of the time, if not always. If all you care about is how well it does on the road & how it makes you feel, then who cares what others think? I bought into the Lincoln LS hype nine or so years ago & can certify that American manufacturers can either drop or de-content a car in an instant. With the LS, they did both. I will never own another American car; the LS was my first and last. I went British, Swedish, Japanese & Canadian before the LS. Now I'm back to Asian. If the CTS, in its various forms, remains through the next few years, I'm sure it'll continue to be shown to be a worthy car. Whether the uplifted-nose crowd will ever consider it worthy remains to be seen. I'm guessing it'll never happen. You never know, though -- it's a fickle group. Who knows? Maybe you're driving what will be universally recognized as a classic in ten years. Maybe not. Replies to this message: kqqlv (Mar 21, 2009 4:14 pm)
#12 of 12 Re: Quality counts [cdnpinhead] by kqqlv Mar 21, 2009 (4:14 pm)
Replying to: cdnpinhead (Mar 21, 2009 1:17 pm) My V's wheel hop is annoying. Reports are the 09 has nailed it. My buddy would lick I-75 clean from Tipp City to Sidney rather than give up his never ending M3 transmission bills if it meant he could never have a BMW again. Engaging in tit 4 tat antidotal examples of poor or superior car quality is a chump's game....not that you are a chump. As JD Powers has shown, and when you take predictable statistical error into account, all but a few models and makes can claim essentially equal quality. Get a clue cdnPINHEAD. Bragging about the fact you will never own another American car again is nothing to ..............well.........brag about. It makes you look silly, uninformed and frankly like a Asiancentric snob.

#11 of 12: Re: Quality counts [kqqlv] by cdnpinhead; Mar 21, 2009 (1:17 pm)

Replying to: kqqlv (Mar 21, 2009 12:53 pm)

Paragraphs are good. They help the reader follow the logic of the post and the train of thought, assuming either exists.

That said, I did plow through. The CTS has had rear-end troubles and a number of other less-significant issues over the years. These are facts. Even so, it appears to be generally recognized as being a worthy vehicle.

These are not good times to be marketing an upscale status toy, regardless of the make. If you want to discuss snob appeal, the Cadillac will come up short most of the time, if not always. If all you care about is how well it does on the road & how it makes you feel, then who cares what others think?

I bought into the Lincoln LS hype nine or so years ago & can certify that American manufacturers can either drop or de-content a car in an instant. With the LS, they did both. I will never own another American car; the LS was my first and last. I went British, Swedish, Japanese & Canadian before the LS. Now I'm back to Asian.

If the CTS, in its various forms, remains through the next few years, I'm sure it'll continue to be shown to be a worthy car. Whether the uplifted-nose crowd will ever consider it worthy remains to be seen. I'm guessing it'll never happen. You never know, though -- it's a fickle group.

Who knows? Maybe you're driving what will be universally recognized as a classic in ten years.

Maybe not.

kqqlv (Mar 21, 2009 4:14 pm)

#12 of 12: Re: Quality counts [cdnpinhead] by kqqlv; Mar 21, 2009 (4:14 pm)

Replying to: cdnpinhead (Mar 21, 2009 1:17 pm)

My V's wheel hop is annoying. Reports are the 09 has nailed it. My buddy would lick I-75 clean from Tipp City to Sidney rather than give up his never ending M3 transmission bills if it meant he could never have a BMW again. Engaging in tit 4 tat antidotal examples of poor or superior car quality is a chump's game....not that you are a chump. As JD Powers has shown, and when you take predictable statistical error into account, all but a few models and makes can claim essentially equal quality. Get a clue cdnPINHEAD. Bragging about the fact you will never own another American car again is nothing to ..............well.........brag about. It makes you look silly, uninformed and frankly like a Asiancentric snob.