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#97 of 126 Re: An LS cartaker [cmax]
Oct 22, 2012 (4:39 pm)
Thanks Cartaker. Right now I canceled my insurance on the car because.... well my engine is in serious condition and I just don't have the money to get it fixed right now. It's a shame. I feels sooo cheated and duped by Ford. You're right we were test samples for their test market car and they owe us .
I know about mechanics not wanting work on this vehicle. It's a MESS and one I have been stuck with and I WANT COMPENSATED FOR ALL MY REPAIRS THUS FAR AND I WANT A NEW CAR THAT IS RELIABLE, they owe me that.
I filed complaints with Ford/Lincoln back in 2004 and demanded they fix the problem, they refused of course and I file complaints with other consumer rights agencies. This company NEEDS TO BE SUED. We need to start a multi-plaintiff lawsuit against Ford. Thanks for your support, cmax.
#98 of 126 ALL LINCOLN LS 2006 OR EARLIER
Feb 23, 2013 (1:40 pm)
Most of these LS models have the same engine and electrical failures, whether it be from experience or reading, moving out of gear when in park, ETC Fail Safe Mode, Missing and Sputtering with engine to be rebooted by turning off and turning it back on, Car shutting off while in drive (which I might add is very very unsafe when it happens on bridges and interstates esp with my child on board!!!!), the wobbling from the air the tends to be taken in through the leaking air intake valves which throws off my O2 sensor and again causes sputtering. Lets also go to the over heating and constant mechanical issues thrown off by the computer which was placed in a spot where it is prone to take in moisture and heat, making all these cars eventually have electrical issues confused for coil packs, transmission issues, pcm issues, etc etc spark plugs, whatever they can find to keep you coming back to the dealer for repair. Ok SO PLEASE PLEASE report to the NHTSA, they will investigate these claims and hopefully recall I know Ive invested almost as much in repairs at this point as I have the car itself. Im very sad too being a single mom and having to be "taken" by Ford Motor company I plan on writing the NHTSA on a complaint where I have found hundreds of you folks complaining of the same issues. They must investigate if enough of these complaints roll in. Its wrong, and its a known defect and that particular model has its design flaws Ford is aware obviously lets make them do something about it! PLEASE PLEASE REPORT IT!!! There are only 8 reports on their website despite the many many that are out there online. Forums arent the place..
#99 of 126 Oh please
Feb 23, 2013 (5:10 pm)
I know dozens of LS owners who are perfectly happy with their vehicles. If you don't like it - GET RID of it and stop complaining. Nobody is forcing you to drive it or keep it.
#100 of 126 Re: Oh please [akirby]
Feb 24, 2013 (4:51 pm)
We were dicussing the failure of the ford motor company to recall a vehicle that is a dangerous vehicle to have on the road.The idea that most people can just go and buy another vehicle shows lack of information on your part
#101 of 126 Re: Oh please [cmax]
Feb 24, 2013 (5:25 pm)
You can easily trade it for another vehicle at any time. If it was really dangerous you wouldn't be driving it. These cars are 7-13 years old already. Fix it, sell it or park it.
#102 of 126 Re: Oh please [akirby]
Feb 24, 2013 (9:04 pm)
Allen, you're talking to a ROCK! Why fix it if you can come to a place like this and gripe and complain? My (my daughter's now ) LS has almost 180K mostly trouble-free miles. My '06 has almost 110K miles and my wife's '06 just over 60K. No rattles, creaks or other annoying sounds; on any of the 3 LSes.
ANY first year car will have a few bugs, which are fixed as the model years progress; ergo the tensioners (which, BTW, are NOT the same thing as the timing chains) and window regulators. There is NOTHING dangerous about the L (other than the knucklehead behind the wheel). The problem has and will always be coils. The plug needs to be replaced with the coil (NO coil packs, grrrrr.....) as the coils will kill the plug and vice-versa. Yes, the '00-early'02 had tensioner problems. The plastic guide (have to keep the engine quiet) was changed to metal (more engine noise) late in the 2002 model run. The chain skips a tooth when the tensioner breaks and the engine runs rough (DUH!). Fix the tensioners and re-index the chain and the engine will be as good as new. The warranty certainly WAS NOT changed to 80K miles. There was a customer satisfaction program that extended the valve cover gaskets and coils to 10 years or 100K miles. That was only for (IIRC) 03-05 models. Both my '06's came with the basic 4yr/50K mile warranty.
Simple/basic maintenance will keep these, or any other car, running for a very long time.
This is why I don't come here often.......
#103 of 126 Re: Oh please [ezaircon4jc]
Feb 25, 2013 (4:33 am)
Are you seriously blaming the driver of these vehicles for the manufacturer dangerous defects? A reader with any brains or common sense should know better than give your post any credence.
Next, since I started this blog concerning Ford's FAILURE TO RECALL THE LS when they knew or should have known that this serious engine failure problem existed and chose to do nothing about it back in 2003 when I contacted them about my 2000 LS, please re-read all my posts concerning pasts engine repairs/replacements, etc. including the ineffective ones you outlined in your uninformed post. I am the original owner of mine and it is setting in my driveway inoperable right now due to another engine failure problem and I am afraid to drive it because it has shut down on me in heavy traffic before. I cannot afford another vehicle right at this time and I am not putting another dime in repairing the vehicle, I want compensation from LINCOLN for their defective product or I WANT a recall. I have all the necessary repair bills to back up my claim and Lincoln has my formal complaint originally filed with them back in 2003. Additionally, it's not a matter of basic maintenance. In fact Lincoln service managers along with other experienced mechanics will attest to the fact this IS A serious engine failure problem AND is unique to Lincoln LS's and Lincoln refuses to stand behind their product safety, preformance, and quality then as well as now. You have no idea what you're talking about, eaircon4jc. Lincoln has known for a very LONG TIME THAT THIS IS A SERIOUS DANGEROUS SAFETY ISSUE AND CHOSE TO IGNORE THE PROBLEM, now National Highway Safety and Transporation Board can do their job.
#104 of 126 You Can Want. . .
Feb 25, 2013 (4:42 am)
whatever you want to want. You'll get what you get.
Calling the people who respond to your post uninformed tells us much more about you than them. Allen in particular has been posting since the first LSs hit the road and is about the only one of the "old timers" who still takes the time to respond at all. Several of us owned and drove LSs for well in excess of 100K miles with mostly minor issues. Sorry you weren't so fortunate.
There's no doubt that the demographic of LS drivers has "evolved" considerably since 2000.
#105 of 126 Re: You Can Want. . . [cdnpinhead]
Feb 25, 2013 (6:32 am)
Thanks Steve. I think it's time to put somebody on the ignore list.
#106 of 126 Re: Oh please [ezaircon4jc]
Apr 10, 2013 (2:04 pm)
I have a 2001 (Aug-2000) LS8 Sport with 59,000 original miles. sounding like it's time for secondary timing chain tensioners. Some say the revised tensioners are the same for all 3.9 engines. I'm interested in knowing if this is true as the parts folks believe this might be true.
Also, I'm looking for the company that made the cold air intake for Brian when he was with LLSOC.com. The smog inspections are wanting to see a sticker on it so they can pass it through the smog rules. I have the receipt but there's no manufacture info on it or anywhere on the polished intake.