Last post on May 05, 2013 at 10:14 AM
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Lincoln LS, Engine
#101 of 110 Re: Oh please [cmax]
Feb 24, 2013 (6:25 pm)
You can easily trade it for another vehicle at any time. If it was really dangerous you wouldn't be driving it. These cars are 7-13 years old already. Fix it, sell it or park it.
#102 of 110 Re: Oh please [akirby]
Feb 24, 2013 (10:04 pm)
Allen, you're talking to a ROCK! Why fix it if you can come to a place like this and gripe and complain? My (my daughter's now ) LS has almost 180K mostly trouble-free miles. My '06 has almost 110K miles and my wife's '06 just over 60K. No rattles, creaks or other annoying sounds; on any of the 3 LSes.
ANY first year car will have a few bugs, which are fixed as the model years progress; ergo the tensioners (which, BTW, are NOT the same thing as the timing chains) and window regulators. There is NOTHING dangerous about the L (other than the knucklehead behind the wheel). The problem has and will always be coils. The plug needs to be replaced with the coil (NO coil packs, grrrrr.....) as the coils will kill the plug and vice-versa. Yes, the '00-early'02 had tensioner problems. The plastic guide (have to keep the engine quiet) was changed to metal (more engine noise) late in the 2002 model run. The chain skips a tooth when the tensioner breaks and the engine runs rough (DUH!). Fix the tensioners and re-index the chain and the engine will be as good as new. The warranty certainly WAS NOT changed to 80K miles. There was a customer satisfaction program that extended the valve cover gaskets and coils to 10 years or 100K miles. That was only for (IIRC) 03-05 models. Both my '06's came with the basic 4yr/50K mile warranty.
Simple/basic maintenance will keep these, or any other car, running for a very long time.
This is why I don't come here often.......
#103 of 110 Re: Oh please [ezaircon4jc]
Feb 25, 2013 (5:33 am)
Are you seriously blaming the driver of these vehicles for the manufacturer dangerous defects? A reader with any brains or common sense should know better than give your post any credence.
Next, since I started this blog concerning Ford's FAILURE TO RECALL THE LS when they knew or should have known that this serious engine failure problem existed and chose to do nothing about it back in 2003 when I contacted them about my 2000 LS, please re-read all my posts concerning pasts engine repairs/replacements, etc. including the ineffective ones you outlined in your uninformed post. I am the original owner of mine and it is setting in my driveway inoperable right now due to another engine failure problem and I am afraid to drive it because it has shut down on me in heavy traffic before. I cannot afford another vehicle right at this time and I am not putting another dime in repairing the vehicle, I want compensation from LINCOLN for their defective product or I WANT a recall. I have all the necessary repair bills to back up my claim and Lincoln has my formal complaint originally filed with them back in 2003. Additionally, it's not a matter of basic maintenance. In fact Lincoln service managers along with other experienced mechanics will attest to the fact this IS A serious engine failure problem AND is unique to Lincoln LS's and Lincoln refuses to stand behind their product safety, preformance, and quality then as well as now. You have no idea what you're talking about, eaircon4jc. Lincoln has known for a very LONG TIME THAT THIS IS A SERIOUS DANGEROUS SAFETY ISSUE AND CHOSE TO IGNORE THE PROBLEM, now National Highway Safety and Transporation Board can do their job.
#104 of 110 You Can Want. . .
Feb 25, 2013 (5:42 am)
whatever you want to want. You'll get what you get.
Calling the people who respond to your post uninformed tells us much more about you than them. Allen in particular has been posting since the first LSs hit the road and is about the only one of the "old timers" who still takes the time to respond at all. Several of us owned and drove LSs for well in excess of 100K miles with mostly minor issues. Sorry you weren't so fortunate.
There's no doubt that the demographic of LS drivers has "evolved" considerably since 2000.
#105 of 110 Re: You Can Want. . . [cdnpinhead]
Feb 25, 2013 (7:32 am)
Thanks Steve. I think it's time to put somebody on the ignore list.
#106 of 110 Re: Oh please [ezaircon4jc]
Apr 10, 2013 (3:04 pm)
I have a 2001 (Aug-2000) LS8 Sport with 59,000 original miles. sounding like it's time for secondary timing chain tensioners. Some say the revised tensioners are the same for all 3.9 engines. I'm interested in knowing if this is true as the parts folks believe this might be true.
Also, I'm looking for the company that made the cold air intake for Brian when he was with LLSOC.com. The smog inspections are wanting to see a sticker on it so they can pass it through the smog rules. I have the receipt but there's no manufacture info on it or anywhere on the polished intake.
#107 of 110 Re: Oh please [garthman]
Apr 10, 2013 (6:46 pm)
I am going to ask a very ignorant question to some but here it goes.Why do you think you need secondary chain tensioners at 59,000.
#108 of 110 Re: Oh please [lividlsowner]
May 03, 2013 (11:09 am)
Mannnnnn, I have a 03 LS V6 AND have the same problems. I got the car in 06, 75k, 2nd owner. Within a yr or so of obtaining this vehicle, 5 of 6 of my coil packs blew and when the 5th one blew it fried my cpu also. I never knew that so many ppl also have had these same problems and I am experiencing them again. Engine like coming on, miss firing again, engine light blinks sometimes. Please let me know if Ford or Lincoln resolve any of these things or reimburse for these problems. I would also like to be reimbursed for my car repairs since it was not from my driving or my own negligence and for our lives being at risk b/c of some greedy, uncaring ignorance. And in that instance, FoMoCo/Lincoln SHOULD have fixed this problem and not kept manufacturing these cars until the problem had a solution. I mean, I value my life and enjoy living. I for one have actually questioned my own safety in my car and the value of others when driving my LS before because i have had these same problems and symptoms in my car before. Should dont even let my lady drive it w/o me incase something happened while she drove. Sould we LS owners look into a settlement case and take this to court or is it even worth it for us? What does it take? Signatures, enough complaints, DEATH? Obviously there is a lot of this going down w/ our specific vehiciles and should not have to go through these problems. PLEASE KEEP ME INFORMED WITH ANY INFO → jteazie1gmail.com ←
#109 of 110 Re: Oh please [teazie03ls]
May 03, 2013 (2:36 pm)
I checked into it when I had my LS, and I think Ford just covered replacing the coils on some V8 models.
#110 of 110 LS waste of a noice looking car
May 05, 2013 (10:14 am)
This car is almost perfect the only thing is a safety recall that had to do with the wheels falling off.The rest of the problems ford produced a lot of repair bulletins but no recalls that they felt obligated to stand behind apparently.Your wasting you time even the trained mechanics want to run.The coils and timing chain guides seem to be of low quality and probably the fact that (to my knowledge)no deaths were found to be caused by these issues,ford just walked away.If you like the car as i do just be prepared to pay a minimum of $500.00 plus at any time .If you do not get rid of it and move on,its not worth staying on the edge of your seat all the time. If you cannot afford another carat this time,just do the best you can and not stay upset.