Article Comments - 2009 Honda FCX Clarity First Drive

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First Drive: 2009 Honda FCX Clarity - The 2009 Honda FCX Clarity is fun to drive and also fun to be seen in. Best of all, the hydrogen fuel-cell sedan gets you where you want to go without burning a drop of gasoline. (more)

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#2 of 27 Why Tomorrow's hydrogen, why not a plug-in hybrid? by mick34 Nov 27, 2007 (5:24 pm)
This new Honda looks great, but its not ready for the public. Hydrogen cars are generally regarded as a red herring...a novelty that allows the automakers and oil giants to keep up business as usual. Honda could market this vehicle in 2008 - just make it a plug-in hybrid. The 2007 Camry hybrid knocks out 40 mpg - I bet Honda could get an FCX plug-in hybrid past 60 mpg if they were willing to try. The hydrogen cars and the hydrogen refill stations are at least 25 years away (if we consider them a replacement for gasoline vehicles.
#3 of 27 English 101 by mediabias Nov 27, 2007 (8:01 pm)
Dear Edmunds, You may want the person who titled this article "Greenest Car You Can Buy", to actually read the article. Hopefully then, that person will realize these cars are only available with a 3-year LEASE. Ummmm....sort of a difference.
#4 of 27 usa mfg,has been by soso3 Nov 28, 2007 (12:46 am)
again japan is cleaning the amercian plate with this...i wonder how many "world vendors" honda "needed" with it. Zero i'm sure.
#5 of 27 not ready by marty67 Nov 28, 2007 (8:38 am)
this is just a show mobile , just to get an audience. This technology is not green. Hydrogen does not fall from the sky, but is produced in inefficient power stations that produce the same soot as ever,
#6 of 27 Seems clear to me... by tazereli Nov 28, 2007 (9:44 am)
that this is what you get when you mate a civic, a Pius and the original FCX together. Very interesting...
#7 of 27 Honda Bland DNA is still intact by irnmdn Nov 28, 2007 (6:33 pm)
Gwaad.. this car looks so fungly....the guys at Honda can make a that runs on fuel cell but can't make it less bland.
#8 of 27 I just love the ENVY! by 6sptl Nov 29, 2007 (9:28 am)
Honda has just produced the car of the future. Technologically this car is at least a decade ahead of any other car company in the planet. I just roll with laughter and ennui when a huge hog like GM's creepy "new" hybrid gets the nod, while a car that the best engineers in NASA couldn't come up with gets the cold shoulder! BTW there is nothing new to GM's hybrid it is simply an adaptation of commuter bus technology that has been around for over a decade! Sorry for honda naysayers but in a few years a lot of people will be driving these and if other manufacturesrs want to catch up they'll be paying nice royalties for the use of the system Honda: The ONLY green car company on the planet!!!!! Replies to this message: stevedebi (Nov 29, 2007 12:55 pm) 6sptl (Nov 30, 2007 6:21 pm) stevedebi (Nov 30, 2007 9:54 pm) and 2 more... gagrice (Nov 30, 2007 8:46 pm)
#9 of 27 Re: I just love the ENVY! [6sptl] by stevedebi Nov 29, 2007 (12:55 pm)
Replying to: 6sptl (Nov 29, 2007 9:28 am) "I just roll with laughter and ennui when a huge hog like GM's creepy "new" hybrid gets the nod, while a car that the best engineers in NASA couldn't come up with gets the cold shoulder! " Funny you should mention that. Care to guess how the lunar missions were powered? Fuel cells, courtesy of NASA. The Honda fuel cell would not have "gotten the nod" because it isn't in production. The Yukon hybrid is. Replies to this message: 6sptl (Nov 30, 2007 6:21 pm) stevedebi (Nov 30, 2007 9:54 pm) 6sptl (Dec 01, 2007 2:42 pm) and 1 more...
#10 of 27 Re: I just love the ENVY! [stevedebi] by 6sptl Nov 30, 2007 (6:21 pm)
Replying to: stevedebi (Nov 29, 2007 12:55 pm) Wrong on multiple accounts, The clarity IS a production vehicle contrary to the VOLT which is a nonrunning protoype, it even uses the lithium batteries that both GM and toyota have said don't even exist Toyota was going to use them in the prius but could not engineer them for true mass production!. Though nasa has utilized fuel cells for decades none of their designs have ever been close to practical for anything on earth and none has even close to the same energy density that honda's FC stack provides thus NASA can learn a myriad of lessons from Honda (NASA could not use it anyway since the FC stack require gravity to function). BTW, Hoda's stack is a remarkable evolution of the 90's Ballard stack which was used in the original FCX. AS to the Yukon its about time GM came up with one since both toyota and Honda have been producing hybrids for 10years now! Even after 10 years of delay the yukon is a limited edition vehicle that costs 10K more than the regular HOG version, the entire exercise is too little, too late and in general kind of pathetic............. Replies to this message: stevedebi (Nov 30, 2007 9:54 pm) 6sptl (Dec 01, 2007 2:42 pm) stevedebi (Dec 03, 2007 12:06 pm)
#11 of 27 Re: I just love the ENVY! [6sptl] by gagrice Nov 30, 2007 (8:46 pm)
Replying to: 6sptl (Nov 29, 2007 9:28 am) Sorry for honda naysayers but in a few years a lot of people will be driving these How many is a lot? 20-30-40 at most. That car will not be on a Honda dealers lot for sale in our lifetime. Hydrogen still uses a lot of Natural Gas to produce. Honda may be the greenest auto maker. It is not with the FCX. It is the GCX that uses the NG as it comes out of the ground without a $100,000 worth of high tech crap in the middle. It is all for the publicity..... Pure and simple.