Last post on Aug 30, 2010 at 7:00 AM
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Subaru Forester, Wagon
#102 of 110 Re: XT engine failure [xwesx]
Dec 15, 2009 (7:34 pm)
xwesx, thanks for your reply. That is part of this situation. My wife dropped off the car while I was comfortably at work thinking the dealer was doing maintenance and instead the dealer only worked on the specific trouble report of vibration or leaking tires etc. I am accustomed to and assumed the Subaru dealership service personnel would review the required maintenance and provide advice. I had purchased a service plan from the dealer in which every other oil change was free, including the first one. The oil was never changed.
#103 of 110 Re: XT engine failure [aatherton]
Dec 15, 2009 (8:14 pm)
aatherton, thanks for the info. The date ranges for my car and engine need to be compared. I will post updates regarding Subaru NA and the dealerships response to this data.
#104 of 110 Re: XT engine failure [ateixeira]
Dec 15, 2009 (8:35 pm)
Hi ateixeira, This is OEM without modifications, without very exciting driving. The engine was cold when the noise started. But now that I am thinking about it, the engine was always noisy at start up, but I figured it was the AC clutch, because it sounded like an AC clutch. Anyway, no mods or chips.
#105 of 110 Re: XT engine failure [2009forestxal]
Dec 16, 2009 (10:00 am)
Ouch. 10,000 miles on OEM oil sounds like a death sentence to me. However, I find it shocking that the needed services were never mentioned by the servicing dealer. I get emails all the time from my local dealer saying one service or another is due. I find them a little annoying since I do most of my own maintenance, but I do think it is, in general, a valuable reminder.
#106 of 110 Re: XT engine failure [2009forestxal]
Dec 17, 2009 (6:57 pm)
"aatherton, thanks for the info. The date ranges for my car and engine need to be compared. I will post updates regarding Subaru NA and the dealerships response to this data."
Well, my data was for failure due to a defect in the XT con rod bearings.
You said your XT's main bearings failed, and have now added that your XT's oil was not changed for 10,000 miles. It sounds like it was not even checked. The oil became sludgey, the filter filled with crud, and the oil burned off until the level dropped to the bottom of the sump. All of that probably happened -- a lack of lubrication which would wear and damage the main bearings.
The required oil change interval for an XT is 3,750 miles. That is why Subaru is saying the warranty does not cover your engine.
If a car is brought in to fix a rattle, it will not get its oil changed unless that is asked for. There is no connection between the timing of a rattle visit, and the schedule of an oil change.
Nor is it the dealer's responsibility to keep track of when the last oil change was done and when the next one is due. The dealer may attempt automated notifications that an oil change appears to be coming due, but the service writer dealing with a rattle complaint is not likely to think "oil change".
#107 of 110 Re: XT engine failure [2009forestxal]
Dec 20, 2009 (11:10 am)
I read that entire thread, and a couple of people were helped out even though they skipped some oil changes.
Be nice, you get more bees with honey. I used to work at a Help Desk and trust me, kill them with kindness.
#108 of 110 Re: XT engine failure [ateixeira]
Dec 20, 2009 (1:57 pm)
Thanks to all for sharing thoughts and analysis...including consideration of my somewhat imprecise data. I know there is good intent and wisdom in the discussion. It helps me understand and to make better decisions. Regards
#109 of 110 2005 SUBARU OUTBACK 2.5i
Aug 29, 2010 (5:27 am)
58,000 miles and apparently we have a damaged rod requiring engine replacement. The power train warranty expired in April.
We complained of a serious vibration a year ago which could not be diagnosed. Could that have been connected to this problem?
Anyone have similar problems?">
#110 of 110 Re: 2005 SUBARU OUTBACK 2.5i [poughkeepsie]
Aug 30, 2010 (7:00 am)
Call 800-SUBARU3 and open up a case number. Be nice, though, you get more bees with honey.
You're still below 60k miles, remind them about that.