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Transmission Problems Saturn Outlook

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Re: My thoughts are with you! [myshakti] by shillelagh
Oct 07, 2008 (9:34 am)
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Replying to: myshakti (Oct 01, 2008 7:55 pm)

I'm having an arbitration hearing tomorrow regarding repurchase of my 08' Outlook XR. What do they expect a person to do, ride a bicycle? Ours has had the engine rebuilt (4k miles), replacement airbag sensors, new wheel well inserts, leaking sunroof and a vibration after the engine rebuild that they say is my imagination. 55 days out of service . Tomorrow, I hope GM doesn't want me to just drive it and see what happens next . I'll post later to let you know how it went. I'm sorry your arbitration didn't go well. However, I really know what you're going through.
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Re: My thoughts are with you! [shillelagh] by myshakti
Oct 07, 2008 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: shillelagh (Oct 07, 2008 9:34 am)

Hi,
 
Are you located in California?
 
The arbitrator did drive me my car and of course the transmission basically worked okay. The unfortunate thing is that my car has never been "out of service". I guess I should have refused to drive it until GM came up with a fix. I could have done somethings better had I known more about the process.
 
The really frustrating fact is that GM knows there is a problem but can fall back on the following term. "It is the way the vehicle has been engineered."
 
I wish you the best in your hearing.
 
Tracy
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Re: My thoughts are with you! [myshakti] by shillelagh
Oct 07, 2008 (10:50 pm)
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Replying to: myshakti (Oct 07, 2008 11:46 am)

I'm located in Tampa, Florida.
The BBB informed me that the arbitrator is a Lawyer and the GM representative will be present via telephone, joy joy!
I did not know that other owners were having such problems until I started reading the Edmund's Forums. I was surprised that GM was trying to cover up the problems so blatantly. That's when I started keeping a logbook on my vehicle. In your state, do you have the option of filing for arbitration with the State Attorney's Office? Here in Florida, if I'm dissatisfied with the BBB's decision, I can file with the State Board of Consumer's Affairs. They will then forward the claim to the State Attorney's Office for arbitration. After that, if you're still dissatisfied, you can get an attorney and sue the manufacturer. If the Judge rules in your favor, the manufacturer has to pay all your attorney's fees. Good Huh?
 
Well it's late and I still have some work to do. Thanks for your support. J.
#24 of 53
Re: Transmission Problems ~ Saturn Outlook 2007 [paynski] by packerfan3
Oct 09, 2008 (5:49 am)
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Replying to: paynski (Oct 02, 2008 5:40 pm)

Maybe you should try what I do. I too love the size, performance and features of this vehicle. I use the manual shifting option and leave it in 4th or 5th gear for cruising around town at that 45 mph range. Much better performance. It must be the 6th gear and desire for the gas mileage rating that causes the "hesitation". The 6th is basically an overdrive, and I use it for highway speeds 65+. Give this a try and see if you get better performance. I have 5K on my 2008 so far and am planning on keeping this for quite awhile. Let me know. ALso if you manually shift it using the buttons, it is a completely different vehicle.
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Saturn Outlook BuyBack by shillelagh
Oct 29, 2008 (2:55 pm)
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Hello Saturn Owners,
 
On Oct. 08/08, we had our Arbitration Hearing regarding our Saturn Outlook and their decision was in our favor. The GM Representative acted like a jerk. He tried to make it look as though we didn't know what we were talking about and if it's not in print in the GM manuel or shop work order he would not consider it as fact. I had everything in document and cronological order. I even had copies of GM's technical bulletins regarding the transmission, fender well splash guards, power steering pump and engine cylinder head problems. The arbitrator took the vehicle on a 20 mile test drive and found out herself about the vibration, transmission lag and excessive steering noise. The Arbitrator found 9 out of 12 items to be significant defects and has awarded us our down payment, costs for tax, tag, title, registration, service contract AND our 10 monthly payments back. All total: $12,000.00 How about those apples !!!!!!!!!! A GM Rep. called this afternoon to confirm our information to set the closing date for the repurchase which will be sometime next week. I'll post the final results.
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Re: Transmission Problems ~ Saturn Outlook 2007 [packerfan3] by cschaper
Oct 29, 2008 (3:28 pm)
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Replying to: packerfan3 (Oct 09, 2008 5:49 am)

How can you tell what gear it's in? It doesn't tell you anywhere.
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Re: Transmission Problems ~ Saturn Outlook 2007 [cschaper] by shillelagh
Oct 30, 2008 (9:19 am)
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Replying to: cschaper (Oct 29, 2008 3:28 pm)

Look at the tachometer. If it's over 2100 rpm, slap the gear shift into Low and punch the up + button on the shifter's left side. That's what I do.
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Re: Transmission Problems ~ Saturn Outlook 2007 [cschaper] by wlbrown9
Oct 30, 2008 (9:32 am)
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Replying to: cschaper (Oct 29, 2008 3:28 pm)

When you pull it down into the first position and use the buttons to shift up or down, the current gear is show to the right of the normal P R N D L indicator, IIRC. I have used it a few times but normally just use D.
 
I did find that on my 20 mile route to the golf course that if I control the speed instead of using cruise control I can up my MPG by about 2. Driving with the average MPG display I can really see the difference in gaining a little speed downhill and letting it bleed off uphill, vs the cruise having to maintain the constant speed especially uphill.
 
Recently took a 1300+ mile trip from Memphis to Gulf Coast and back. Reset MPG display leaving Memphis on 78 toward Birmingham. Disappointed in averaging less than 20 mpg on that hilly leg (using cruise). Not really bad for the complete hwy portion of the trip getting right around 21 MPG for the 1200 miles or so. I now think I could up that to around 23 MPG or more by keeping it from downshifting as much uphill and gaining speed for the next hill while going down. BUT that would defeat the ease of cruising with cruise, so I doubt I would do that for a complete trip. Love the 2008 Outlook XR so far
 
Bill
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Re: Transmission Problems ~ Saturn Outlook 2007 [wlbrown9] by shillelagh
Oct 30, 2008 (11:18 am)
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Replying to: wlbrown9 (Oct 30, 2008 9:32 am)

Believe it or not, but we have a few hills here in Florida. I kick off the cruise control when I'm approaching a hill because of that very problem of the Outlook's sensitivity to an incline. I'll hit resume after the top. It will give you +2 or +3 more miles per gallon. It's a very nice car but it does have some quirks. If you've read my threads you know that mine is just a lemon . I've got a brand spanking new Toyota Highlander Limited sitting in my garage. The Outlook XR goes back to GM Saturn next Tuesday.
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2007 Outlook Problems by mruffini
Jan 18, 2009 (11:01 am)
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We have a 2007 Saturn Outlook with only 14k miles on it and we have had nothing but problems with it. I would never by another Saturn nor recommend it to anyone. We have had pretty much all of the same problems as other folks (recalls for leaky sunroofs, recalls for wipers that "don't work with snow/ice build-up") and other problems. We just got it back after not having it for 3 weeks, as the dealership had to try to diagnose a transmission problem (wouldn't shift into drive). They took it apart and had to replace a "spider gear" that they said was not faulty, but put into the car incorrectly during manufacturing. Then the heated washer fluid wouldn't work, and the dealer told me I didn't have that feature--another trip back and it was fixed (loose connection). Now we are on vacation, 200 miles from home, and the exhaust is loud as hell. I will never buy another saturn..they are a "different kind of car alright"....pieces of crap. I have a 2001 Ford Supercrew with 120k miles on it and it's more reliable than the outlook.

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