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Transmission Problems Saturn Outlook

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Saturn Bulletin TSB #08-07-30-022 by shillelagh
Aug 07, 2008 (9:59 am)
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Just got our Outlook XR back after installation of "new and improved" fender well splash guards and installation of a re-program of the shift module per bulletin 08-07-30-022. Drove it in the rain, no loss of power steering control. However, the Bulletin upgrade did not correct the shift hesitation of the transmission. Service Advisor said to send "The Letter" to Saturn (9 months old with 45 days out of service). Soooo, it went out today. I have already received 2 Case #'s regarding the issues with this vehicle without any resolvement. Let's see what they have to say now. Will keep you posted.
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Re: Transmission Problems ~ Saturn Outlook 2007 [myshakti] by cabeckerva
Oct 01, 2008 (1:03 pm)
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Replying to: myshakti (Nov 24, 2007 10:25 am)

I hate this car!!!!! The transmission is horrible. Have you had any luck in getting it fixed?
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My thoughts are with you! by myshakti
Oct 01, 2008 (7:55 pm)
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I am sure you read my threads. I have fought the fight and lost against GM. I went to arbitration to try and have the car bought back with no success. It is their thought in summary (GMs) that since I keep driving the car it must not be that bad. What am I supposed to do walk everywhere?!
 
If you want to know more, please let me know. I would love to see a Class Action filed or a huge revolt as this car is not what they claim it is!
 
Tracy
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Re: Transmission Problems ~ Saturn Outlook 2007 [cabeckerva] by paynski
Oct 02, 2008 (5:40 pm)
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Replying to: cabeckerva (Oct 01, 2008 1:03 pm)

I actually like most things about the car, but I totally agree with you that the transmission control is HORRIBLE! What's pathetic, is that mechanically, the transmission is fine. It's the "brain dead" computer that controls it that's the problem. I think it suffers from inadequate CPU horsepower. The shifting algorithym is far to complex for the tiny computer they chose to control it. If they simplified the algorithym, it could be improved significantly by just updating the software. I hope they come out with a worthy update soon. I'd give up 1-2 mpg just to have it drive like a good old reliable, hydraulic controlled, automatic transmission.
-Warren
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Re: My thoughts are with you! [myshakti] by shillelagh
Oct 07, 2008 (9:34 am)
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Replying to: myshakti (Oct 01, 2008 7:55 pm)

I'm having an arbitration hearing tomorrow regarding repurchase of my 08' Outlook XR. What do they expect a person to do, ride a bicycle? Ours has had the engine rebuilt (4k miles), replacement airbag sensors, new wheel well inserts, leaking sunroof and a vibration after the engine rebuild that they say is my imagination. 55 days out of service . Tomorrow, I hope GM doesn't want me to just drive it and see what happens next . I'll post later to let you know how it went. I'm sorry your arbitration didn't go well. However, I really know what you're going through.
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Re: My thoughts are with you! [shillelagh] by myshakti
Oct 07, 2008 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: shillelagh (Oct 07, 2008 9:34 am)

Hi,
 
Are you located in California?
 
The arbitrator did drive me my car and of course the transmission basically worked okay. The unfortunate thing is that my car has never been "out of service". I guess I should have refused to drive it until GM came up with a fix. I could have done somethings better had I known more about the process.
 
The really frustrating fact is that GM knows there is a problem but can fall back on the following term. "It is the way the vehicle has been engineered."
 
I wish you the best in your hearing.
 
Tracy
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Re: My thoughts are with you! [myshakti] by shillelagh
Oct 07, 2008 (10:50 pm)
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Replying to: myshakti (Oct 07, 2008 11:46 am)

I'm located in Tampa, Florida.
The BBB informed me that the arbitrator is a Lawyer and the GM representative will be present via telephone, joy joy!
I did not know that other owners were having such problems until I started reading the Edmund's Forums. I was surprised that GM was trying to cover up the problems so blatantly. That's when I started keeping a logbook on my vehicle. In your state, do you have the option of filing for arbitration with the State Attorney's Office? Here in Florida, if I'm dissatisfied with the BBB's decision, I can file with the State Board of Consumer's Affairs. They will then forward the claim to the State Attorney's Office for arbitration. After that, if you're still dissatisfied, you can get an attorney and sue the manufacturer. If the Judge rules in your favor, the manufacturer has to pay all your attorney's fees. Good Huh?
 
Well it's late and I still have some work to do. Thanks for your support. J.
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Re: Transmission Problems ~ Saturn Outlook 2007 [paynski] by packerfan3
Oct 09, 2008 (5:49 am)
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Replying to: paynski (Oct 02, 2008 5:40 pm)

Maybe you should try what I do. I too love the size, performance and features of this vehicle. I use the manual shifting option and leave it in 4th or 5th gear for cruising around town at that 45 mph range. Much better performance. It must be the 6th gear and desire for the gas mileage rating that causes the "hesitation". The 6th is basically an overdrive, and I use it for highway speeds 65+. Give this a try and see if you get better performance. I have 5K on my 2008 so far and am planning on keeping this for quite awhile. Let me know. ALso if you manually shift it using the buttons, it is a completely different vehicle.
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Saturn Outlook BuyBack by shillelagh
Oct 29, 2008 (2:55 pm)
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Hello Saturn Owners,
 
On Oct. 08/08, we had our Arbitration Hearing regarding our Saturn Outlook and their decision was in our favor. The GM Representative acted like a jerk. He tried to make it look as though we didn't know what we were talking about and if it's not in print in the GM manuel or shop work order he would not consider it as fact. I had everything in document and cronological order. I even had copies of GM's technical bulletins regarding the transmission, fender well splash guards, power steering pump and engine cylinder head problems. The arbitrator took the vehicle on a 20 mile test drive and found out herself about the vibration, transmission lag and excessive steering noise. The Arbitrator found 9 out of 12 items to be significant defects and has awarded us our down payment, costs for tax, tag, title, registration, service contract AND our 10 monthly payments back. All total: $12,000.00 How about those apples !!!!!!!!!! A GM Rep. called this afternoon to confirm our information to set the closing date for the repurchase which will be sometime next week. I'll post the final results.
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Re: Transmission Problems ~ Saturn Outlook 2007 [packerfan3] by cschaper
Oct 29, 2008 (3:28 pm)
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Replying to: packerfan3 (Oct 09, 2008 5:49 am)

How can you tell what gear it's in? It doesn't tell you anywhere.

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