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Re: Continued problems [soccer4]
by hawkeye15
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Jun 24, 2008 (2:26 pm)
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Replying to: soccer4 (May 25, 2008 6:55 am)
I had the Same update #08-07-30-022.(Wasn't available until May 2008) It came with the warning of a possible mpg decrease. We have seen no decrease. I posted on the Acadia forum, too, but this update has completely eliminated any complaints I have had with the transmission. It operates in a completely normal manner. Any of you that were told you already had the most recent updates need to check that they did the bulletin number given above. I see about 14 mpg in very short in town trips around town and 21-22 at 76 mph on the freeway with an awd Enclave. I'd be interested if anyone still has complaints after this update.
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Re: Continued problems [hawkeye15]
by myshakti
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Jun 24, 2008 (5:31 pm)
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Replying to: hawkeye15 (Jun 24, 2008 2:26 pm)
You drive an Enclave, not a Saturn Outook, correct?
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Tranny update
by hawkeye15
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Jun 25, 2008 (9:47 am)
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I drive an Enclave with the same engine and Transmission as the Outlook and Acadia. The TSB has the 2008 Enclave, 2007/8 Acadia, and 2007/8 Outlook listed at the top and didn't come out until the second week of May 2008. #08-07-30-022
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Re: Tranny update [hawkeye15]
by hawkeye15
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Jul 27, 2008 (10:14 am)
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Replying to: hawkeye15 (Jun 25, 2008 9:47 am)
I was wondering if any of the previous posters went to their dealer to request the TSB# 08-07-30-022 that I posted about, before. They will not do this one and will tell you that you have the most current update unless you complain about the sluggishness and hesitation. Give them the TSB # and don't worry about the warning that it may worsen mpg. MOst of us on the other forums have not seen any decrease. The difference in the drive is night and day. I'd like to hear any of your results.
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Rain & Loss of Power Steering Control
by shillelagh
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Jul 28, 2008 (1:07 pm)
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When I drive my 08' Saturn Outlook in the rain or drive it through standing water (6 inches or less) after a hard rain, there is a squealing noise and I lose power steering control. It will last from 30 seconds to a minute. It has been in the dealer's shop 4 days now and they called today to say there is a "fender well" replacement with added splash guards to eliminate water from wetting the belt. I live in central Florida and this time of year it rains every day. Try turning this moose without power steering, I'm glad I don't live in a mountainous area with this thing. Also, they are going to perform the computer upload per Saturn Bulletin TSB #08-07-30-022 regarding hesitation in down-shifting of the transmission.
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Saturn Bulletin TSB #08-07-30-022
by shillelagh
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Aug 07, 2008 (9:59 am)
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Just got our Outlook XR back after installation of "new and improved" fender well splash guards and installation of a re-program of the shift module per bulletin 08-07-30-022. Drove it in the rain, no loss of power steering control. However, the Bulletin upgrade did not correct the shift hesitation of the transmission. Service Advisor said to send "The Letter" to Saturn (9 months old with 45 days out of service). Soooo, it went out today. I have already received 2 Case #'s regarding the issues with this vehicle without any resolvement. Let's see what they have to say now. Will keep you posted.
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Re: Transmission Problems ~ Saturn Outlook 2007 [myshakti]
by cabeckerva
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Oct 01, 2008 (1:03 pm)
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Replying to: myshakti (Nov 24, 2007 10:25 am)
I hate this car!!!!! The transmission is horrible. Have you had any luck in getting it fixed?
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My thoughts are with you!
by myshakti
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Oct 01, 2008 (7:55 pm)
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I am sure you read my threads. I have fought the fight and lost against GM. I went to arbitration to try and have the car bought back with no success. It is their thought in summary (GMs) that since I keep driving the car it must not be that bad. What am I supposed to do walk everywhere?!
If you want to know more, please let me know. I would love to see a Class Action filed or a huge revolt as this car is not what they claim it is!
Tracy
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Re: Transmission Problems ~ Saturn Outlook 2007 [cabeckerva]
by paynski
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Oct 02, 2008 (5:40 pm)
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Replying to: cabeckerva (Oct 01, 2008 1:03 pm)
I actually like most things about the car, but I totally agree with you that the transmission control is HORRIBLE! What's pathetic, is that mechanically, the transmission is fine. It's the "brain dead" computer that controls it that's the problem. I think it suffers from inadequate CPU horsepower. The shifting algorithym is far to complex for the tiny computer they chose to control it. If they simplified the algorithym, it could be improved significantly by just updating the software. I hope they come out with a worthy update soon. I'd give up 1-2 mpg just to have it drive like a good old reliable, hydraulic controlled, automatic transmission.
-Warren
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Re: My thoughts are with you! [myshakti]
by shillelagh
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Oct 07, 2008 (9:34 am)
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Replying to: myshakti (Oct 01, 2008 7:55 pm)
I'm having an arbitration hearing tomorrow regarding repurchase of my 08' Outlook XR. What do they expect a person to do, ride a bicycle? Ours has had the engine rebuilt (4k miles), replacement airbag sensors, new wheel well inserts, leaking sunroof and a vibration after the engine rebuild that they say is my imagination. 55 days out of service . Tomorrow, I hope GM doesn't want me to just drive it and see what happens next . I'll post later to let you know how it went. I'm sorry your arbitration didn't go well. However, I really know what you're going through.
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