Last post on Jul 25, 2009 at 7:18 PM
You are in the Honda Pilot
What is this discussion about?
Honda Pilot, Toyota Highlander, Toyota 4Runner, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), SUV
#3 of 8 Re: Honda Pilot vs Toyota Highlander vs 4-Runner 2008 [autiger1994]
Nov 24, 2007 (1:02 am)
I wouldn't consider the current Honda Pilot as it's an old style that will be replaced with a new model I think in the first half of '08 as an '09 model.
If you need economy, the Honda CR-V may be a better choice. It's a new '08 design and looks pretty spiffy.
The 4Runner is now a five year old design and I think the new HL beats it in most areas, especially if you want a 4WD but rarely actually drive it off pavement.
#4 of 8 urgent help needed on 2008 new 4runner
Jun 10, 2009 (4:42 pm)
HI, I am sorry for asking for your help again.
After a month of research on 2009 4runner, this afternoon I went to the closest dealer in my city. But they do not have 09 4runner, yet they do have 08 new 4 runner (they had not been sold out.)
My question is: how much would be accessed for depreciation?
Hereunder is their quote (approximate):
Base retail price: $ 30k
pkgs and opionts: $ 1k
Destination: $ 685
Total retail price: $ 32k
And I was offered: $ 28k, as the sale price, excluding tax, doc fee.
I did my computation for it as if it were 2008 and came out with around
$ 29k = Factory invoice + pkg + options + Holdback + WFR
Now if I have the depreciation, I can give the dealer my offer. I attentatively assessed $4k as depreciation, which gives approximately
my offer = $ 29k - $4k= $25k
Any suggestion is appreciated.
#5 of 8 Re: urgent help needed on 2008 new 4runner [chee09]
Jun 15, 2009 (1:45 pm)
As soon as you drive it off the lot, it will be a two-year-old truck. There is no way I would buy it for $25k. Walk away.
#6 of 8 Re: Honda Pilot vs Toyota Highlander vs 4-Runner 2008 [autiger1994]
Jun 16, 2009 (9:30 am)
The 4runner (R/awd) is the only one of those I would trust if expecting to encounter wintertime adverse roadbed conditions on a regular basis.
#7 of 8 Re: Honda Pilot vs Toyota Highlander vs 4-Runner 2008 [wwest]
Jun 18, 2009 (1:05 pm)
"The 4runner (R/awd) is the only one of those I would trust if expecting to encounter wintertime adverse roadbed conditions on a regular basis. "
I've got a 4Runner. I've put 80,000 miles on it. The controlling factor in how it does in snow is the tires. I put dedicated snow tires on mine in the winter.
Here in Boston, Honda Pilots and Toyota Highlanders do just fine in the snow. Just put a set of snow tires on them. Would I take them up over the snow bank and through 18" of fresh snow on an unplowed dirt track like I do my 4Runner? No. But for 95% of people, the Pilot and Highlander will do just fine getting them to work and the Mall in a couple inches of snow, when driven with a bit of care.
#8 of 8 Re: urgent help needed on 2008 new 4runner [chee09]
Jul 25, 2009 (7:18 pm)
I would jump on the dealers price, but that's me. I would plan to hold the car for at least 7-8 years, so depreciation really doesn't matter to me. You would be buying one of the best cars made, probably the best SUV made, for under dealer invoice. I think the year means very little to the consumer. It is still a new vehicle.
I found a local dealer with two new 2008 4Runners. One is a V8, must be stripped, list is 33K. The other is a V6, more options I guess, list is 34K. I have been unable to get them to discuss pricing via e mails, but if the V6 had a sunroof and maybe the upgraded JBL sound system, 32K would be a good price on the '09. At 30K the '08 would be a steal for me. A loaded Rav4 lists for 30 and 28 is a good price.
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