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125 messages, Last post on Oct 04, 2008 at 7:39 PM
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My hubby and I and our expanding family are getting ready to purchase a 2008 T & C Limited any minute now. We've been given a F & F discount code. Another friend has asked a Chrysler employee to sign us up for the Employee Discount. He has my information and I'm waiting on the email but now I see that the Employee Discount has been discontinued. Darn the luck. So I guess I'm expecting 1% below invoice. Can you please confirm that the dealer will show me the invoice and the PP (preferred pricing) will be listed in plain old black and white for me? I understand that I can take a $1500 rebate instead of great financing (check around -- you can get great financing at a local credit union). I called the rebate center and found out about an additional $1000 rebate if you already own a Chrysler product. I asked the rep how you prove that you own a Chrysler product if you don't drive it there. She said that you have to provide the last 8 digits of a VIN and that they might ask you to show a registration or something. Well, until very recently, I owned a Jeep and I have a large file of service records, extended warranty information, etc. on it and could easily provide the last 8 digits of a VIN to save an additional $1,000. But if they're going to grill me and force me to sign over the rights to my next born, I'm not going to push the issue of trying to save an additional $1,000. Can anyone tell me based on their real life recent buying experience, what you had to provide in order to get the $1,000 rebate for owning a Chrysler product? Also, I'm pricing the new van with the M package and a moonroof. I'm told that the L package is cheaper and that I can get a moonroof with that, but the www.chrysler.com website won't let me. Any answers to any of my questions would be greatly appreciated. Personal email is mssooz swbell.net Suzi
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Replying to: mssooz (Apr 11, 2008 12:37 pm) Yes, the PP (Friends) price will be shown right on the invoice. There's no dollar sign next to it but the numbers are not in code or anything. If you have a Friends discount number with you they must show you the invoice if you ask. Other than TTL (in some states) the only thing the dealer can add to that price is up to $75 for a documentation fee. Also, dealer add-ons, such as aftermarket tinted glass or stripes, would be an additional fee. Run out the door if they start talking about things like dealer prep or marketing fees. If you are trading something be sure and do your homework on the value of your old vehicle before you get to the dealer. The salesman that sold me my Sebring last September even said that they couldn't give me as much for my trade as the GM dealer down the road, since I had an employee discount. |
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Replying to: KarenS (Nov 20, 2007 7:11 am) I just bought a Grand Caravan SXT with 25L, leather interior group, dual screen video and satellite as the major options. Sticker price was 34,134 including transportation. I ended up paying 25,449.42 after discounts, incentives ect. Another plus, the first three years oil changes are free too (Military Appreciation). I didn't trade in, which made the deal a lot easier to make. I have bought from the dealer before (Minot Chrysler Center in Minot, North Dakota) and have never had an unplesant experiance with them. In over 30 years of buying cars, they are the only dealership where I have always left feeling good about the deal. Just about every other car I have ever bought, I left the dealership feeling "violated" at some level or another.
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Can anyone pls advise if the published invoices found in the internet is accurate? Is this the same invoice if you pay a few hundred dollars to Edmunds, Autobytel, etc.? Do the dealers have more than 1 invoice? Also, can anyone pls confirm the fees and w/c ones are non-negotiable? I'm in the SF Bay Area (CA) and ready to buy but research may be inaccurate. Looks like invoice postings vary between states and forumers? Is the calculation below correct? Please let me know w/c dealers gave great deals. Read somewhere that there are other discounts - friends/family (1% under invoice), Chrysler mag coupon (750), conquest (500), etc. What’s the difference between Dodge SE vs SE Value (free stow n go $945)? Appreciate your advises/help. DODGE SE invoice - 19,648 dest - 770 20,418 24H pkg 3,247 vs. Chrysler LX - 2,596 Ent grp #1 1,866 25,531 tax (8.75) 2,,234 27,765 vs. Chrysler LX - 28,596 ADD or SUBTRACT FEES doc fee ? ca emission fee ? color adjustment ? title/license (dmv registration) ? add dealer markup ? regional adjustmnt ? tire tax ? tag transfer ? eec file ? LESS non-negotiable? dlr holdback - 766 minivan loyalty - 1,000 cust cashback - 1,500 FINAL COST - ?
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Replying to: wersdabestdeal (May 02, 2008 12:01 am) 2008 Dodge Grand Caravan SE - MSRP: $26,390 Friends discount: $2,383 2008 Chrysler Town & Country LX with H Package - MSRP: $26,545 Friends discount: $2,345 The Friends discount is before any rebates or other price incentives, which can be combined for even greater savings. |
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I just reached a deal on a `08 Caravan SXT. Configured as 25L + PV6 (Orange....) MSRP $20,140 Friends Price: $28,039 The invoice listed on Edmunds is $27,587 (including the CMA marketing code). The invoice I was shown didn't have the CMA, but did have $404 in other costs (including T02 which was NY - DAA and B02 which is NY - PPA/EB-PF). The price with those ends up being about 30 bucks or so above the Edmunds invoice, which I guess was close enough. I was given a money factor of .00170 and residual of 46%. With lease loyalty and a regional marketing discount of $500, I ended up with $4000 in rebates. Does the friends price for the 25L SXT with PV6 of $28,039 make sense? Were the lease numbers I was given the current Chrysler ones? Thanks all, Craig
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Replying to: csteinbe (May 19, 2008 4:55 pm) Friends Price: $28,039 I think I'd be more inclined to just pay the MSRP on this one.  You probably meant $30,140, since when I looked up an SXT with Sunburst Orange and the 25L package it showed $30,140. Anyway... MSRP: $30,140 Friends discount: $2,815 Net price: $27,325 Any rebates or other price incentives would further reduce the net price. Rebates vary by region. You can find out the current ones for your area by calling the Rebate Hot Line at (800) 227-0757. Where did you get the Friends price that you listed? Did you see it printed on the actual invoice at the dealer? Also, I don't know a thing about any lease numbers. The prices I listed were copied from website that gives a general idea of what a buyer can expect to pay for a similar vehicle. As always, the actual invoice is the official word.
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Replying to: tedebear (May 19, 2008 6:42 pm) The dealer is getting the vehicle from another, so I might stop by and ask to review all of the paperwork before trade-in day. I understand there is an acknowledgement form to sign, so that should explain the details. I didn't think there was room to wiggle with this program, and I'd be very disappointed if the dealer was playing games. Thanks for looking at the prices.
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Replying to: csteinbe (May 19, 2008 8:05 pm) Here's how to tell if you're getting the right price on the new minivan. First, ask to see the actual invoice. Next, look on the sheet for a "PP" (Preferred Pricing) code. That's the same as the Friends price. The only thing they can add to that price is up to $75 for a documentation fee. Also, TTL is paid at the dealership in some states. However, there are no marketing fees, transfer fees or any other fees that can be added. The delivery charge that you see on the window sticker is already included in the Friends price. Dealer add-ons, such as aftermarket tinted glass or stripes would be an extra cost. Do your homework on your trade-in value. When I bought my Sebring last year using an employee discount the salesman said he could not match what I would get for my trade at a GM or Ford dealership because he wasn't making any money on the sale. Expect a very low offer. As I started to stand up to go down the road to see what the Saturn dealer had to say they suddenly were willing to negotiate a bit on my trade. I ended up getting around twice the amount for it they had originally offered. 
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Replying to: tedebear (May 19, 2008 8:57 pm) The end result was I live in an area with no Chrysler employee presence and the dealer didn't have a clue on how to deal with the friends program. I went in as soon as the van showed up from the dealer they swapped with so I could see the invoice. When I saw the actual PP price ($27780, as tedebear said), I explained the program again, the saleperson checked it out, and down the price went. At closing time I almost had to beg them to make me sign the Friends program form, and even had to point out that they didn't charge me the $75 fee (they ended up not bothering with the fee, and ended up finally getting the right friends form after first giving the employee purchase program form to sign). I also asked the salesperson to go into DealerConnect and check all possible incentives that were available. He found a $750 minivan loyalty incentive that seems to be out there and nobody knew about. I got the idea to ask because I found this via searching on Google: http://carolinadodgedealers.com/images/Our%20Time%20Magazine%20Promo.pdf Go figure. So, final numbers: 2008 Grand Caravan SXT, 25L in Sunburst Orange MSRP: $30,140 Friends Price: $27780 Customer Cash: $2500 Lease Cash: $1000 Regional Incentive: $500 Minivan Loyalty: $750 Final price: $23,030
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