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#7 of 16 Yaris vs Aveo by ttai Dec 23, 2007 (3:26 pm)
The epic battle. Ok, not really.   http://www.cars.com/go/video/player.jsp?makeid=47&year=2007&modelid=8242&locatio- n=MW_L_2007_Toyota_Yaris.flv&aff=national http://www.cars.com/go/video/player.jsp?makeid=9&year=2007&modelid=7214&location- =MW_L_2007_Chevrolet_Aveo.flv&aff=national
#8 of 16 Go with the Yaris by familyman5746 Dec 29, 2007 (10:29 am)
Depending on where you live, AC is a necessity. The Aveo is not equipped with AC, it also has no power anything. Replies to this message: huntmaster (Dec 29, 2007 1:56 pm) ttai (Dec 29, 2007 2:04 pm)
#9 of 16 Re: Go with the Yaris [familyman5746] by huntmaster Dec 29, 2007 (1:56 pm)
Replying to: familyman5746 (Dec 29, 2007 10:29 am) Check Your Fact's next time before you try to make a arugment about aveo's they have A\C's and quit wasting my time Replies to this message: ttai (Dec 29, 2007 2:04 pm)
#10 of 16 Re: Go with the Yaris [huntmaster] by ttai Dec 29, 2007 (2:04 pm)
Replying to: huntmaster (Dec 29, 2007 1:56 pm) Actually, Aveos' may not have standard AC. But, in America, most will come with AC. I have heard of people buying Aveos' with no AC. Crazy.
#11 of 16 Experience With Aveo by alexhenryj Dec 29, 2007 (2:34 pm)
I have sold 4 Aveos over the last 6 months. Two Aveo5 Special Value models (no A/C no CD) and two Aveo5 LSs.   One had a problem that ended with Chevrolet giving the customer a new car. I was rather impressed with Chevrolet standing behind their car. Traded the '07 for an equally equipped '08 without adding any additional payments.   The other three have had no problems, even here in Plattsburgh, New York where the roads may or may not be plowed and there are strong cross breezes across the interstate. While I say it handles well... It handles well for a 2,200 lb. car. Great cars if you ask me. Just don't lease one, their residuals are TERRIBLE mainly because of their low low price.   As for the Yaris... We had a woman who financed the entire deal owing nearly $15,000 and it was worth, cash value, not trade in, around $8,600. It was a 2007 with 25,000 miles on it. So much for the superb trade-in values. Replies to this message: ttai (Dec 29, 2007 2:57 pm) poncho167 (Dec 30, 2007 5:55 am) wheelman (Jan 10, 2008 9:54 am) ttai (Jan 15, 2008 6:29 pm) poncho167 (Jan 19, 2008 5:58 am)
#12 of 16 Re: Experience With Aveo [alexhenryj] by ttai Dec 29, 2007 (2:57 pm)
Replying to: alexhenryj (Dec 29, 2007 2:34 pm) I used to sell Nissans. A car is worth what people are willing to pay for it. Plain and simple. Take that Kelly Blue Book and shove it. Replies to this message: poncho167 (Dec 30, 2007 5:55 am)
#13 of 16 Re: Experience With Aveo [ttai] by poncho167 Dec 30, 2007 (5:55 am)
Replying to: ttai (Dec 29, 2007 2:57 pm) That's funny I sold Nissans as well and Kelly BB is a good reference to get an idea of worth. After 2-years cars value in general drop 50%, and that is for Japanese cars as well. I keep my cars at least 10-years so my cars pay for themselves. Aveo's are comparable to any sub-compact out there and have better interiors and ride then some. These are cheap cars and one gets what they pay for. I would get A/C because you will get your money back if you sell, but in reality I rarely use A/C.
#14 of 16 Re: Experience With Aveo [alexhenryj] by wheelman Jan 10, 2008 (9:54 am)
Replying to: alexhenryj (Dec 29, 2007 2:34 pm) Consumer Reports: Avoid the 04, 05 Aveo. Consumer Reports again: Aveo is a "least reliable" vehicle for '07. Review after review from a variety of automotive e-zines give the car 'marginal' at best recommendations. Within three model years, the Aveo now has a 'crap' reputation in the U.S. auto market.   If GM wanted to do the Aveo/Wave right. When they purchased Daewoo they should have identified systems failures within the Daewoo Kalos; re-engineer the Kalos to quality and performance benchmarks; break down and buy some quality components...and then build the car for release into the USA and global markets. But my logic is not GM logic.   The WheelMan Replies to this message: ttai (Jan 15, 2008 6:29 pm) poncho167 (Jan 19, 2008 5:58 am)
#15 of 16 Re: Experience With Aveo [wheelman] by ttai Jan 15, 2008 (6:29 pm)
Replying to: wheelman (Jan 10, 2008 9:54 am) GM was hoping a few, well placed, reports on how equally reliable their cars are to Toyota will sell cars. They do it every decade and every decade it proves wrong. If GM wants to sell good cars, they must become private and tell the share holders to go F* themselves. GM has the engineering talent. They lack the executive talent. Replies to this message: poncho167 (Jan 19, 2008 5:58 am)
#16 of 16 Re: Experience With Aveo [ttai] by poncho167 Jan 19, 2008 (5:58 am)
Replying to: ttai (Jan 15, 2008 6:29 pm) Sorry but you are still not accepting reality. Everyone has caught up with Toyota and some have passed them in reliability. Toyota's rush to be #1 in sales has hurt their reputation for the quality problems the last few years. This is great news for Americans to realize that we can get quality cars right here at home and support our own American owned business' and not rely on Japanese auto's which are killing our economy and continue misleading uneducated buyers in television commercials and elsewhere. Perceptions are catching up to them and they have definitely peaked with only a downturn to come. The Aveo is not even an American car but has proven to be a good buy for the buck versus and over-priced gas guzzling Toyota Scion. Even if Toyota had the most reliable car in a particular segment it is only that particular model not Toyota as a whole. No automaker has the best vehicle in every segment.   CR is for losers who know little about cars. CR is not a legitimate source for car evaluations or statistics based on the way that they do their surveys with the paying members only approach. This is a company that has hid the fact that it was out sourcing evaluations until that big scandal in 2007 in which they came out and apologized to the public that the company who was doing the child safety seat test for them failed to follow guidelines when revealing that 9 of 11 popular child safety seats failed their test which proved inaccurate. Is this a company that you rely on for accurate automotive information? I would consider their information if I was to buy a lawnmower, toaster, or chainsaw, etc., but for automobiles I would look at JD Powers or auto magazines who have specific and more accurate criteria.

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