Last post on Nov 01, 2013 at 6:06 PM
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Ford Escape Hybrid, Electrical, Hybrid Cars, SUV
#49 of 60 Re: Hybrid Batteries [unaccept1able_]
Apr 30, 2010 (6:49 pm)
"However, I was just informed today, after taking all maintenance recommendations of Ford dealers for 4 years regarding the hybrid battery that at 120k miles (with $10000 left of financing) that my hybrid battery needs to be replaced to the tune of $8000.00!!!!! "
If you live in a CARB state, the battery has a 150K warranty. If you live in one of these states you are in luck.
Map of CARB states.
#50 of 60 Re: stop vehicle safely message [bartb]
Jun 27, 2010 (8:31 pm)
Does anyone know where the fan is that cools the rear battery my 2005 escape hybrid has a noise that sound like a clutch fan going bad and it does it when it hot out and i am thinking maybe it is the rear fan but i don't know where its at.
#51 of 60 2005 Ford Escape Hybrid clutch fan noise please help?
Jun 27, 2010 (8:40 pm)
I have a 2005 ford escape hybrid and after reading some of the post on this site i have found out that there is a fan that cools the battery in the back.Every now and then in the summer months i hear a sound that sounds like a clutch slipping on an Ac compressor but the Ac up front is fine.I am now thinking it is the fan for the back battery but i don;t know where it is if anyone has an idea of where it is at please let me know.Also if you had the same problem and know of something else it could be please let me know, I also did not know there was a filter for this in the back but i did check it and it was dirty.Please email me with any information that will help.
#52 of 60 Re: Hybrid Batteries [stevedebi]
Sep 28, 2010 (5:41 pm)
What is a CARB state and which states on the map you provided are carb states.
#53 of 60 Re: Hybrid Batteries [researcher101]
Oct 12, 2010 (3:43 pm)
"What is a CARB state and which states on the map you provided are carb states. "
The CARB states are in color on the map. Those states have a longer hybrid system warranty (10 years / 150K miles).
#54 of 60 Re: Hybrid Batteries [unaccept1able_]
Feb 08, 2011 (11:37 am)
Sorry for the loss unaccept1able. It is unfortunate that you owe that much after four years.
Might I suggest closing on the house, then telling the car finance people to come get their car (as not to wreck your credit until you have the house).
Then you might have to get a bike to ride to work, much greener way of getting there.
#55 of 60 Re: stop vehicle safely message [kratekin]
Aug 04, 2011 (6:42 am)
The following is a "how to" on changing the battery fans in a 2005 FEH. The fans ARE NOT under the battery warranty at this time. The kit that was purchased from Ford is 5M6Z-10C659-A. The price is around $250 for both fans.
Here's the narrative:
My buddy Darrin owns a 2005 Ford Escape Hybrid. Recently, his wife experienced an error message while driving that ultimately lead to a fault with the battery cooling fans in the rear of the vehicle. These two fans actually live inside the large (220 pound) battery pack under the rear cargo floor. For this vehicle the fans are not under the battery warranty and the dealer wanted more than $800 to replace them. Darrin and I decided to give it a try ourselves. The fans cost Darrin around $250 from the dealership and the part number for the replacement kit is: 5M6Z-10C659-A. Inside the kit you get the two fans, some ty-raps, and a couple other small items. Detailed instructions are also included. We read the instructions but ultimately didn't follow them word for word.
We saw that the instructions called for removing the battery assy from the vehicle but we did find a way that the battery fans could be replaced without taking the whole assy out.
Notice the top of the battery. It has two separate top covers. The rear cover is above the two fans and can be removed with the battery in the vehicle. The first thing you will want to do is turn the orange switch to the off position which disables the battery power. Then you can lift straight up on the switch now and rotate it further CCW to the shipping position.
There is an exhaust duct on the aft left side of the battery that needs to be removed before the rear cover comes off.
Now you'll need to remove several self tapping screws from the top rear cover. They are T30 tamper resistant torx screws
Once you get the top rear cover off you'll find that it is attached by two grounding cables. Remove these so that you have better access.
Now you should see that two fans and their top cover. Remove the top cover from the fans.
The two fans are mounted the same on each side. You'll find 4 nuts holding them down. Remove the nuts with a 10mm socket. Looking at the forward part of the fan you'll see a thin top cover held down by two small self tapping screws. Remove this cover. Cut several ty-raps securing the wires and then disconnect the quick plug for the fan. Each fan also has a green ground wire you'll want to remove as well.
Now, here's the tricky part (it's not that bad). You're at the point where you want to pull the fans out but they won't come aft because in front of the fan exhaust is a 4 inch tall black plastic stanchion that supports the top lid. Simply grab the stanchion with some channel lock pliers and pull it loose to get it out of the way.
The fans should now come out of the battery assembly. Installation is the reverse. If you need help or have more questions you can email me at aeromechaol.com
#56 of 60 Re: stop vehicle safely message [aeromech1]
Aug 10, 2011 (4:43 pm)
"The following is a "how to" on changing the battery fans in a 2005 FEH. The fans ARE NOT under the battery warranty at this time. "
The fans ARE covered under the hybrid warranty. Ford dealers were inputting the wrong codes for the repair, and it was coming up as unauthorized. In fact, Ford lists the fans as a part of the battery pack, and their manuals say to treat them as one item. When that is input into the Ford system, it comes up as a covered item. I believe that Ford has updated the information to dealers, but I have some doubts; they would rather have the customer pay than to cover the repair. Anyway, if the dealer input the battery pack (which includes the fan), then it was covered, if they just listed the fan assembly, it was not covered.
#57 of 60 Re: stop vehicle safely message [aeromech1]
Jul 28, 2013 (4:41 pm)
Not sure if this message is read by many, but I used these instructions to replace the fans in my 2005 Escape Hybrid (with 276,000 miles on it) and they were 99.9% accurate! The only issue I found is the removal of the self taping screws on the fan shrouds. The instructions don't make it clear that you remove those screws AFTER you remove the fans out of the battery pack, other than that, great instructions! kudos to kratekin for the great detail! Thank you, my Escape is now operating at peak efficiency again!
#58 of 60 Re: stop vehicle safely message [chartierpw]
Aug 15, 2013 (6:45 pm)
Thanks to stevedebi for their great posting. Also to chartierpw.
FORD will give you a diagnostic saying your fans need work, but watch out.
We started a road trip and the STOP SAFELY message appeared. We'd wait a while and restart and drive like 20 miles and it would reappear. We turned around and limped back home...about ~20-30~ miles each time we let it rest for a while and restarted.
I slightly suspected maybe it was a water cooling/pumping problem...due to touching some rubber hoses under the hood. Anyhow, we got him home and morning of next day I drove it to Dealer (with no incident).
The gave me report that we needed water pump and fans needed replace.
The estimate was astounding! $1,400.00 I couldn't believe it. I took the vehicle home and did some internet research. Found in another hybrid forum discussions about this phenomena and made decision that the lack of coolant caused system to overheat, thus I think the computer listed cooling fans not working - replace.
Made several attempts to try and get the fans performed under warranty - no dice. Like above, the computer does not want to recognize the fans as Hybrid unique. (but they are really).
Well, I bought the water pump ($125) and installed it. It is an electric pump unit and bolts on to body under the radiator. A 12 yr. old could replace it with proper tools.
After replacing h2O pump everything has been okay. I hear the fans whirr and we have had no more STOP SAFELY messages for a year and a half since then. Everything seems to be okay, even in these hot summers.
Ford Service people should be reminded about the post above this. The fans are inside the Hybrid Component (battery pack) and are suppose to be covered, but it's like pulling teeth to convince a Service Dept. whose never come across how to look it up properly. They think the computer is always right.