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#48 of 56 Hybrid Batteries by unaccept1able_

Apr 30, 2010 (5:18 pm)

My grandfather was a foreman at Ford dating back to the 1920's. I am a huge supporter of new technology and had no problem paying more for my 2006 Ford Escape to support Ford in its development of the hybrid vehicle. However, I was just informed today, after taking all maintenance recommendations of Ford dealers for 4 years regarding the hybrid battery that at 120k miles (with $10000 left of financing) that my hybrid battery needs to be replaced to the tune of $8000.00!!!!! t $8000.00 is significant and absolutely unacceptable for any auto repair or replacement at anytime!. I was supposed to close on a house on May 15th but my downpayment may be made to a Ford dealer instead! for repair so I can get to work! Unacceptable. Ford needs to step up and support it's early supporters of its new technology.

#49 of 56 Re: Hybrid Batteries [unaccept1able_] by stevedebi

Apr 30, 2010 (7:49 pm)

Replying to: unaccept1able_ (Apr 30, 2010 5:18 pm)
"However, I was just informed today, after taking all maintenance recommendations of Ford dealers for 4 years regarding the hybrid battery that at 120k miles (with $10000 left of financing) that my hybrid battery needs to be replaced to the tune of $8000.00!!!!! "
 
If you live in a CARB state, the battery has a 150K warranty. If you live in one of these states you are in luck.
 
Map of CARB states.

#50 of 56 Re: stop vehicle safely message [bartb] by kratekin

Jun 27, 2010 (9:31 pm)

Replying to: bartb (Aug 28, 2009 3:04 pm)
Does anyone know where the fan is that cools the rear battery my 2005 escape hybrid has a noise that sound like a clutch fan going bad and it does it when it hot out and i am thinking maybe it is the rear fan but i don't know where its at.

#51 of 56 2005 Ford Escape Hybrid clutch fan noise please help? by kratekin

Jun 27, 2010 (9:40 pm)

I have a 2005 ford escape hybrid and after reading some of the post on this site i have found out that there is a fan that cools the battery in the back.Every now and then in the summer months i hear a sound that sounds like a clutch slipping on an Ac compressor but the Ac up front is fine.I am now thinking it is the fan for the back battery but i don;t know where it is if anyone has an idea of where it is at please let me know.Also if you had the same problem and know of something else it could be please let me know, I also did not know there was a filter for this in the back but i did check it and it was dirty.Please email me with any information that will help.
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#52 of 56 Re: Hybrid Batteries [stevedebi] by researcher101

Sep 28, 2010 (6:41 pm)

Replying to: stevedebi (Apr 30, 2010 7:49 pm)
What is a CARB state and which states on the map you provided are carb states.
Thanks

#53 of 56 Re: Hybrid Batteries [researcher101] by stevedebi

Oct 12, 2010 (4:43 pm)

Replying to: researcher101 (Sep 28, 2010 6:41 pm)
"What is a CARB state and which states on the map you provided are carb states. "
 
The CARB states are in color on the map. Those states have a longer hybrid system warranty (10 years / 150K miles).

#54 of 56 Re: Hybrid Batteries [unaccept1able_] by highrev2

Feb 08, 2011 (12:37 pm)

Replying to: unaccept1able_ (Apr 30, 2010 5:18 pm)
Sorry for the loss unaccept1able. It is unfortunate that you owe that much after four years.
 
Might I suggest closing on the house, then telling the car finance people to come get their car (as not to wreck your credit until you have the house).
 
Then you might have to get a bike to ride to work, much greener way of getting there.

#55 of 56 Re: stop vehicle safely message [kratekin] by aeromech1

Aug 04, 2011 (7:42 am)

Replying to: kratekin (Jun 27, 2010 9:31 pm)
The following is a "how to" on changing the battery fans in a 2005 FEH. The fans ARE NOT under the battery warranty at this time. The kit that was purchased from Ford is 5M6Z-10C659-A. The price is around $250 for both fans.
 
Here's the narrative:
 
My buddy Darrin owns a 2005 Ford Escape Hybrid. Recently, his wife experienced an error message while driving that ultimately lead to a fault with the battery cooling fans in the rear of the vehicle. These two fans actually live inside the large (220 pound) battery pack under the rear cargo floor. For this vehicle the fans are not under the battery warranty and the dealer wanted more than $800 to replace them. Darrin and I decided to give it a try ourselves. The fans cost Darrin around $250 from the dealership and the part number for the replacement kit is: 5M6Z-10C659-A. Inside the kit you get the two fans, some ty-raps, and a couple other small items. Detailed instructions are also included. We read the instructions but ultimately didn't follow them word for word.
 
We saw that the instructions called for removing the battery assy from the vehicle but we did find a way that the battery fans could be replaced without taking the whole assy out.
 
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Notice the top of the battery. It has two separate top covers. The rear cover is above the two fans and can be removed with the battery in the vehicle. The first thing you will want to do is turn the orange switch to the off position which disables the battery power. Then you can lift straight up on the switch now and rotate it further CCW to the shipping position.
 
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There is an exhaust duct on the aft left side of the battery that needs to be removed before the rear cover comes off.
 
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Now you'll need to remove several self tapping screws from the top rear cover. They are T30 tamper resistant torx screws
 
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Once you get the top rear cover off you'll find that it is attached by two grounding cables. Remove these so that you have better access.
 
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Now you should see that two fans and their top cover. Remove the top cover from the fans.
 
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The two fans are mounted the same on each side. You'll find 4 nuts holding them down. Remove the nuts with a 10mm socket. Looking at the forward part of the fan you'll see a thin top cover held down by two small self tapping screws. Remove this cover. Cut several ty-raps securing the wires and then disconnect the quick plug for the fan. Each fan also has a green ground wire you'll want to remove as well.
 
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Now, here's the tricky part (it's not that bad). You're at the point where you want to pull the fans out but they won't come aft because in front of the fan exhaust is a 4 inch tall black plastic stanchion that supports the top lid. Simply grab the stanchion with some channel lock pliers and pull it loose to get it out of the way.
 
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The fans should now come out of the battery assembly. Installation is the reverse. If you need help or have more questions you can email me at aeromechaol.com

#56 of 56 Re: stop vehicle safely message [aeromech1] by stevedebi

Aug 10, 2011 (5:43 pm)

Replying to: aeromech1 (Aug 04, 2011 7:42 am)
"The following is a "how to" on changing the battery fans in a 2005 FEH. The fans ARE NOT under the battery warranty at this time. "
 
The fans ARE covered under the hybrid warranty. Ford dealers were inputting the wrong codes for the repair, and it was coming up as unauthorized. In fact, Ford lists the fans as a part of the battery pack, and their manuals say to treat them as one item. When that is input into the Ford system, it comes up as a covered item. I believe that Ford has updated the information to dealers, but I have some doubts; they would rather have the customer pay than to cover the repair. Anyway, if the dealer input the battery pack (which includes the fan), then it was covered, if they just listed the fan assembly, it was not covered.

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