Infiniti G35 vs Audi A4

88 messages,  Last post on Jul 30, 2008 at 9:29 PM

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What is this discussion about? Infiniti G35, Audi A4, BMW 3 Series, Car Comparisons, Sedan

#76 of 88 Re: MB c-class [m4d_cow] by rjlaero

Jul 03, 2008 (9:14 am)

Replying to: m4d_cow (Jul 02, 2008 11:40 pm)
Audi's new 2009 A4 will be extremely competitve when it gets here in a few months.
 
Growing a huge 6 inches in the wheelbase, it'll be the largest car in it's class.
 
The new 2.0T will be the best motor on the market. 211 hp / and almost 260lb ft of torque and 10/15 % better fuel economy. It's better than BMW's and MB base 6 cyl motors.
 
As premium gas approached $5 gallon, Audi will do incredible business on the new 2.0T.
 

#77 of 88 Re: MB c-class [rjlaero] by hauschild

Jul 03, 2008 (10:29 am)

Replying to: rjlaero (Jul 03, 2008 9:14 am)
I agree and have been thinking about the advantage Audi will have since they have a turbocharged 4 banger as opposed to a V6 or V8. Certainly, there will be people like myself who enjoy luxury and performance but do not feel 300 horsepower is worth the gas.
 
I am curious since I am a fairly new A4 owner whether the turbo is always used, or whether it kicks in only when you apply the throttle with a certain amount of pressure? I always try take off very gingerly so as not to kick in the turbo unnecessarily, but I'm not sure if I'm wasting my time or if it does increase gas mileage. Don't get me wrong, I drop the hammer on occassion, but most of the time I prefer better mileage. After all, the feel of quick acceleration is fun and all, but it gets old - especially at 5 bucks a pop.

#78 of 88 Re: MB c-class [hauschild] by rjlaero

Jul 03, 2008 (12:14 pm)

Replying to: hauschild (Jul 03, 2008 10:29 am)
Audi's new 2.0T will still do 0-60 in mid/upper 6's, and that's for a Quattro. The incredible low end torque of the 09 model is going to make that car a blast to drive. Especially with a 6 speed.
 
I think the hp wars have gotten really ridiculous, and everybody trying to do 0-60 in 4.9 seconds is not what most people look for in a car.
 
Even 6-7 years ago, 270-280 was top of the line for most cars. Now a G35 has 330hp in a V6. There's more to a car than 0-60, and the overall handling and driving experience will count for a lot more.
 
And with gas $5 gallon, people will be making different choices. We're never going back to 2.50 gas.
 
There's a major change in the automotive industry ahead. And Audi is in perfect position with their cars.

#79 of 88 Re: MB c-class [rjlaero] by circlew

Jul 03, 2008 (12:17 pm)

Replying to: rjlaero (Jul 03, 2008 12:14 pm)
Never tested an Audi because the local dealer here turned me off once so I decided to go elsewhere (BMW). I just drove the 2008 G and I really like it. For $38K, it has a lot to offer.
 
Regards,
OW

#81 of 88 09 A4 by sjaieve

Jul 03, 2008 (4:46 pm)

I have to agree that compared to the 328i, the new A4 will be a better buy even if equally priced. However, I would not be suprised to see the sales numbers showing the 328i in the lead. People flock to BMW dealerships, maybe to get the 335i but realize its pricey and then settle for the 328i:) In all honesty I have no idea why the 328i sells as much as it does. Ultimately it sales no matter what anyone thinks.
 
In addition, the A4 2l engine will be fuel efficient. But against the 330 or 300Hp G, maybe +280hp TL the A4 is not at par here. Someone said the 200/256 A4 "is a blast to drive", can you imagine how it feels to drive a 300/268 G? Personally, for up to 40k, I want as much HP & everything else that I can squeeze in for that amount. For fuel efficiency, I use my 140hp 2004 commuter car (+30mpg)
 
The G & TL have a lot more to offer other than HP, details of which I wont get into as it should be pretty evident if you have read about these 2 cars.

#82 of 88 Re: MB c-class [rjlaero] by laurasdada

Jul 04, 2008 (1:22 pm)

Replying to: rjlaero (Jul 03, 2008 12:14 pm)
Reminds me of the late '70s, early '80s. Gas prices rising and supply tenuous at times. The answer? Hot hatches! Rabbit GTIs, Mitsu/Chrysler Turbos. Turbos boosted your performance without too much sacrifice in mpg. I had an '85 Mirage Turbo, fun fun fun.
 
Yes, the last several year the HP wars have gotten stupid. Sure, more power is good, but really where (as a suburban denizen) am I going to take advantage of 300+ ponies? I'll be quite happy with a wonderfully turbo'd four or powerful enough 6 (a la my TL) in the future. Unless the 8 is as economical as a powerful 6, like the XK from what I've read (yeah, Aluminum!).

#83 of 88 Dont you think by m4d_cow

Jul 11, 2008 (10:47 am)

The turbos fuel econs a bit overhyped? I mean it exists in the Mazda CX7 (turbo 4), yet the fuel economy is equal to a V6's.
Another thing about turbos I'm still concerned of is its durability. Turbos, particularly higher pressure ones, require some cooling down time before the engine can be shut off. That is if you want the turbo to last. How many of you wait for a few mins before shutting down the engine? I doubt there are more than a few.
 
Hauschild, turbos kick in at certain rpm limit, usually starts at 3000 rpm or so. So if you keep your engine at lower rpms the turbo may not kick in, if your car's an automatic, you'll have to use the manumatic to control the shifts. Turbo's main purpose is to increase speed, while a compressor (or supercharger) is meant to push torque and hammer the acceleration at lower rpms. Of course, you cant use both at the same time on stock engine, unless you want to blow up the cylinders.

#84 of 88 Turbo by r34

Jul 11, 2008 (12:06 pm)

I heard that new turbo doesn't require several mins to be cool off, as long as you drive the car at normal speed before you shut off the engine.
 
If you have twin turbo, it helps to build up the boost.
 
You get the torque much quicker with a turbo car. It is more fun in driving it too.
 
Make sure you use premium gas.

#85 of 88 r34 by m4d_cow

Jul 13, 2008 (12:01 am)

I heard that new turbo doesn't require several mins to be cool off, as long as you drive the car at normal speed before you shut off the engine.
 
Thats because at normal, presumably lower speed the turbo doesnt work. Remember that turbos dont kick in unless the engine reach certain rpm limit.
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