Last post on Jul 30, 2008 at 8:29 PM
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Infiniti G35, Audi A4, BMW 3 Series, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#72 of 88 MB c-class
Jul 02, 2008 (10:40 pm)
yes the C is pricy, but if I consider the C I'd go all the way to C350. When you count them up with options the C350 will cost around $2000 over the C300 (rwd). MB has the poorest quality among the 3 germans, so personally buying C300 awd is a bad idea imo.
What you might not notice is the C is now cheaper than both A4 and 3series. A dealer offered me a loaded C350 for $39k, far cheaper than 335's $42k.
Of course, the notion "you get what you pay for" really works here. The new C's interior feels noticeably cheaper than the bmw's (touch the upper dash and you'll know what I mean), engine not so refined, and fit-finish is poor at these prices.
With Audi rising in popularity (and rising standards in quality) I cant help but wonder if the C will sink even lower in this contest, as a bmw salesman complained that their sales has lowered while Audi's rise significantly. Oddly, the numbers so far dont seem to agree. Audi's sales has been by far lower than MB and BMWs....I wonder which one is right?
Mercedes Benz: 19,576
#73 of 88 Re: G35 [sjaieve]
Jul 03, 2008 (2:25 am)
Yes...it will be the '09...hope there is new tech for improved fuel mileage.
#74 of 88 Re: MB c-class [m4d_cow]
Jul 03, 2008 (6:06 am)
bear in mind that each of those car manufacturers have different models under one roof. Mercedes has the most, then BMW, the Audi, then lexus, then Acura then lastly Infiniti. Mercedes makes nice cars like the sl series, for which it does not compete with any of the brands above, but when we are talking of the c class, the story changes.
#75 of 88 Re: G35 [circlew]
Jul 03, 2008 (6:10 am)
Nice. I think you can't go wrong with that one. I have a 2 year lease on an '08 can't wait to get into the '10 which will be the same as the '09. Nothing else on the market now and projected for next year excites me but the G.
Cant wait for your posts on your experience on the new car
#76 of 88 Re: MB c-class [m4d_cow]
Jul 03, 2008 (8:14 am)
Audi's new 2009 A4 will be extremely competitve when it gets here in a few months.
Growing a huge 6 inches in the wheelbase, it'll be the largest car in it's class.
The new 2.0T will be the best motor on the market. 211 hp / and almost 260lb ft of torque and 10/15 % better fuel economy. It's better than BMW's and MB base 6 cyl motors.
As premium gas approached $5 gallon, Audi will do incredible business on the new 2.0T.
#77 of 88 Re: MB c-class [rjlaero]
Jul 03, 2008 (9:29 am)
I agree and have been thinking about the advantage Audi will have since they have a turbocharged 4 banger as opposed to a V6 or V8. Certainly, there will be people like myself who enjoy luxury and performance but do not feel 300 horsepower is worth the gas.
I am curious since I am a fairly new A4 owner whether the turbo is always used, or whether it kicks in only when you apply the throttle with a certain amount of pressure? I always try take off very gingerly so as not to kick in the turbo unnecessarily, but I'm not sure if I'm wasting my time or if it does increase gas mileage. Don't get me wrong, I drop the hammer on occassion, but most of the time I prefer better mileage. After all, the feel of quick acceleration is fun and all, but it gets old - especially at 5 bucks a pop.
#78 of 88 Re: MB c-class [hauschild]
Jul 03, 2008 (11:14 am)
Audi's new 2.0T will still do 0-60 in mid/upper 6's, and that's for a Quattro. The incredible low end torque of the 09 model is going to make that car a blast to drive. Especially with a 6 speed.
I think the hp wars have gotten really ridiculous, and everybody trying to do 0-60 in 4.9 seconds is not what most people look for in a car.
Even 6-7 years ago, 270-280 was top of the line for most cars. Now a G35 has 330hp in a V6. There's more to a car than 0-60, and the overall handling and driving experience will count for a lot more.
And with gas $5 gallon, people will be making different choices. We're never going back to 2.50 gas.
There's a major change in the automotive industry ahead. And Audi is in perfect position with their cars.
#79 of 88 Re: MB c-class [rjlaero]
Jul 03, 2008 (11:17 am)
Never tested an Audi because the local dealer here turned me off once so I decided to go elsewhere (BMW). I just drove the 2008 G and I really like it. For $38K, it has a lot to offer.
Jul 03, 2008 (3:46 pm)
I have to agree that compared to the 328i, the new A4 will be a better buy even if equally priced. However, I would not be suprised to see the sales numbers showing the 328i in the lead. People flock to BMW dealerships, maybe to get the 335i but realize its pricey and then settle for the 328i:) In all honesty I have no idea why the 328i sells as much as it does. Ultimately it sales no matter what anyone thinks.
In addition, the A4 2l engine will be fuel efficient. But against the 330 or 300Hp G, maybe +280hp TL the A4 is not at par here. Someone said the 200/256 A4 "is a blast to drive", can you imagine how it feels to drive a 300/268 G? Personally, for up to 40k, I want as much HP & everything else that I can squeeze in for that amount. For fuel efficiency, I use my 140hp 2004 commuter car (+30mpg)
The G & TL have a lot more to offer other than HP, details of which I wont get into as it should be pretty evident if you have read about these 2 cars.