Last post on Jul 30, 2008 at 9:29 PM
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Infiniti G35, Audi A4, BMW 3 Series, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#55 of 88 Re: Things changed [rascal99]
Apr 23, 2008 (1:19 pm)
Good to know 2.0T engine is the top 10 engine. However, I like to say, those reviews or rewards are just for reference. Only yourself can decide which car fit for you.
If I just trust all those reviews, I might get a Chevy Malibu at the end. Which I don't like it at all.
#56 of 88 Re: Things changed [spi5]
Apr 23, 2008 (1:29 pm)
You are funny. I will respond in a somewhat personal manner as your post is personal.
G has been rated very well for handling and road feel thank you very much. BTW, the G35X is AWD up to 20MPH beyond that its 100% RWD unless slippage in detected so in summer the AWD never kicks in beyond 20mph
The punk kids driving 0-60 in 6 seconds are not stupid. Sorry man, there are just having fun smoking your car.
Personally I love automatics, thats my preference and I will NEVER drive a stick. Thank you very much
Sports cars emphasize handling, feedback & power. A car with all 3 is the better sports car.
Now that we have seen that we cant see eye to eye, we move on.
#57 of 88 Re: Things changed [sjaieve]
Apr 23, 2008 (1:46 pm)
Again, it pretty much shows what is your priority - smoke the other car. So it may not worth to discuss further down regarding what is a fine car with an outsider of stick shift.
#58 of 88 Re: Things changed [spi5]
Apr 23, 2008 (2:06 pm)
"That is a typo. Should be "than" not "to" - "That is much more fun than running fast in straight line."
Did I say that? I looked at my posts but I couldn't find it.
I think both A4 and G35 are nice cars but some drivers may have some issues.
Some drive the car in a way like driving an Accord or a Grand AM, expecially some G35 coupe drivers (sorry to say that but I saw a lot of them).
#59 of 88 Re: Things changed [r34]
Apr 23, 2008 (2:12 pm)
Well thats just sad, you pay +30k for a car & you drive it like a grand am!!!
Cars have different dimensions to them, there is bells & whistles, comfort, quiteness, handling, outright power etc. If you paid +30k, better make sure you are enjoying all those dimensions, within the limits of the law of course
#60 of 88 Re: Things changed [r34]
Apr 23, 2008 (2:15 pm)
Sorry for the confusion.
Also, I agree with your mature statement "....I think sport sedans emphasize more on handling and feedback from the road, not only the power.....". That is pretty much what I thought.
Maybe my RX-8 is doing too well on handling and feedback from the road. That is why I do not feel G has anything spectacular.
#61 of 88 Re: Things changed [rascal99]
Apr 25, 2008 (12:43 pm)
No offense here, but most of your responses are "I don't care about this".
This is why each individual has to decide which car is best for them.
Certainly, don't go by other's opinions or by what C&D says...
As for interior room, I love my G.
I'm 6' and very, very comfy in my car. I may also add that I'm currently driving an Enterprise rental for a few days, since some dingbat tapped my rear bumper at a red light
It's a huge 12mpg Jeep Commander and it has LESS interior room than my G. I don't care about cubic feet of cargo... I care about whether or not my kids can fit into their booster seats in the back with their feet hitting my seat. The G is just fine for me and my needs.
On a side note... I despise Enterprise. They lose my reservation for a Premium or Luxury sedan and after an hour of waiting, they place me in the Canyonero from the Simpsons.
#62 of 88 they're all so different!
Jun 19, 2008 (8:46 am)
I know they're all in the same category, but they're all such different cars! I've been car shopping recently (it's taking me forever since there's so many $30k-50k sports/luxury cars) and I've learned a lot in recent weeks about the pluses and minuses of almost every brand.
One thing to note is that when you get into this segment of cars (especially if you're used to driving non-luxury or non-sports cars, as I am), is that yes reviews point out all kinds of pro's and con's to each car, but most of the cars in this class are comfortable, luxurious, a pleasure to drive, and beautiful anyway to such an extent that you only notice a difference if you drive them one after another, or if you're already used to driving a certain make/model and switch to a new one. Overall they're all great cars (japanese, american, and german!)
Here's my take (and remember, it's just an opinion based on recent experience):
335i - Best traits: No contest winner in terms of driving pleasurability, handling, and overall performance. Cool styling.
Worst traits: They're so common nowadays you'll be one in a sea of 3-series, boring and unluxurious interior (in my opinion at least), options cost way too much and its near impossible to find a model with only a few options.
A4 - Best traits: More luxurious and beautiful interior than others, decent looking, one of the best all wheel drive systems you can get
Worst traits: Not as sporty as others, base engine is worthless for a "sport" sedan, front-heavy.
G35 - Best traits: Awesome engine, interior looks better than BMW, quite cheap for what you get (lots of standard equipment too!), very good handling
Worst traits: Depending on where you live it can be as everyday as the 3-series, interior not as nice as Audi's, more unrefined than either Audi or Bmw, horrible manual transmission (at least for this caliber of car)
CTS -Best traits: Powerful engine with direct injection, beautiful and makes you stand out, classy interior is on par (or better in some people's opinon) with Audi's, home grown American made
Worst traits: Not as sharp and athletic than any of the other cars, only slightly bigger than others but feels a lot bigger than it is, unpredictable reliability, costs more than other cars except maybe BMW with options
So what's my pick? Well actually I'm in the market for a sports coupe, not a sedan, and the Audi A5 is my choice, though Infiniti's G37 and BMW's Z4 are tied for a VERY close 2nd place. Beautiful, refined, luxurious, and though its not as sporty as the Bimmer and not as brutally powerful as the Infiniti, its 256 HP engine is still great, standard all wheel drive (among many other great standard features), and great overall package are a nice blend of everything I'd really want, including good fuel economy (unlike the G37, which is what killed it for me ).
Every car has great things and not-so great things about it, but in this luxury/sports segment it's really hard to actually hate any of these cars. They're all great in their own ways, and I'm sure you'll find what's right for you. Hope this helps!
#63 of 88 Re: Things changed [sjaieve]
Jun 19, 2008 (9:13 am)
I don't wanna be rude, a jerk, or anything, and I do agree with you that the G35 is a very nice car (almost got a G37, only things that held me back were lousy fuel economy and the fact that where I live everyone and their mother drives a G), but if you don't drive stick, I don't think you've truly experienced a sports sedan (or sports coupe/roaster/whatever).
0-60 times in an auto are just a gauge of how big the engine is and how fast the tranny shifts for you. 0-60 times in a stick are a measure of the driver's ability, as well as the car's. I wouldn't feel particularly proud "smoking" someone while driving an automatic because it only shows you got a fast car, says nothing about any other measure of driving performance (Infiniti has very good performance in terms of things other than raw engine power too, just as you mentioned, and I too believe it beats the A4 in that respect, but many of those things are just hampered by the awful stick shift in the G35.. the stick in the G37 is much nicer ), and most of all it shows nothing about the driver except that he can push a pedal down with his foot.. Though automatics can be very fun as well in a car of this caliber, and I agree that they suit a lot of people based on their personal preferences. Just my $0.02..
#64 of 88 Re: they're all so different! [1speedbike]
Jun 19, 2008 (9:15 am)
I think you made a great choice. I have an 07 A4 2.0T (the one with the "worthless" engine) and it is a great car. My only complaints, as you pointed out, is the car is quite nose heavy, and the engine can be coarse at times. I know the new model A4 is more balanced than the one I have.