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#38 of 281 Re: Altima shopping - CVT tranny issues - pls help [wantanaltima]
Mar 14, 2009 (8:35 pm)
DO NOT - DO NOT purchase the Alitma. The tranny can only be service by Nissan - other mechanics do not want to touch it.
I purchase a 2007 Altima in July of 2007 and due to my long commute to/from work, I've place a lot of miles on the vehicle. After hearing an unusual noise, I had the dealership look at it, they told me I need a new transmission. parts cannot be replace, you must purchase the entire tranny. I only have 66,000 miles on the car. Of course they do not want to provide any assistance for replacement to fix the car. I would not recommend purchasing Nissan vehicles.
I returned to the Service Manager to plea my case and is currently waiting for a response.
#39 of 281 Re: Altima shopping - CVT tranny issues - pls help [wantanaltima]
Mar 15, 2009 (7:26 am)
Keep in mind, rebuilding or replacing an automatic transmission will be in excess of 4 grand. its not as though an auto is cheap to replace either. However, if reliability is your primary concern, buy something with a manual transmission, as you'll never need to replace anything but the clutch, if that.
Transmission shops will replace them, and are probably cheaper than a dealership. Like I told you before, they are actually much less complicated than an automatic transmission. And don't put much stock into what you see on message board on the internet. People seldom go to message boards for any other reason than to complain, vent, and talk bad about the car they're having problems with. nothing wrong with that, it is what it is.
As for you choice, thats a tough decision to make. I own both a civic and an altima; and both are great cars.
but which ever one you get, BUY THE EXTENDED WARRANTY! I can't overstate that enough. first off, you can get them cheap. Dealerships love to sell them, and will give you a great deal on one if you push for it. getting one for half the price they initially offer you in not uncommon. And second, fixing cars is expensive. Auto or CVT, replacing (or in the case of an auto, rebuilding) will cost thousands. And even honda (despite their stellar record) have had problems with their auto transmissions before. but aside from transmissions, it just isn't that hard to need a thousand or more in repairs for a car. It's just not worth taking the chance.
#40 of 281 Re: Altima shopping - CVT tranny issues - pls help [jd10013]
Mar 15, 2009 (7:36 am)
Funny you mention getting a manual tranny. I've never driven stick and have tried but didn't like it. The fact that I really love this car has made me start thinking again about taking lessons! lol.
I totally agree with you about internet hype and I take everything with a grain of salt.
Regarding the Extended warranty, i agree for the Altima it's probably a good buy. A friend of mine who knows tonnes about cars and knows that I'd probably buy the Altima even if I knew there were inherent problems with it suggested getting the extended warranty too. I very well may try to do that and haggle the guy on the price. I'm in Canada so I'm not sure how much they will haggle on the price of that like they do in the US. I will definitely try though...that's just my nature.
Thank you so much for the info so far. I really appreciate it. Any other insights are gladly welcomed as it sounds like we think on the same wavelength.
#41 of 281 Re: Altima shopping - CVT tranny issues - pls help [wantanaltima]
Mar 15, 2009 (2:21 pm)
No need to go as far as learning how to drive a stick. think of it this way with the CVT. It's totally optional on nissans part. they still use autos on their trucks and suv's. they have perfectly good automatic transmission on the shelf. If the CVT were flawed, or there were know problems with it, or problems with its long term reliability................................ Nissan would just go back to an auto trans. they have plenty already, and could switch over in in a matter of weeks. It's not as though their stuck with using CVT's. And personally, I just can't imagine they're risk the future of the company for no reason.
another thing you might want to know about CVT' is, nissan is not the first company to use them. ford used them before, as has subaru. and I believe both toyota and honda offer them in foreign markets. Nissan is simply the first company to make widespread use of them in the all so important North American market. the CVT is neither new, nor revolutionary. The only two factors that have held them back are finding a material for the belt that will hold up in higher torque and HP cars, and public acceptance. Nissan solved the first, and is working on the second.
as for warranties, the transmission is just one reason to get one. anything on a car can cost a fortune to fix. even something as simple as a power window motor can run $600 to fix. A blown head gasket can run $1600. so much depends on the car. you could have a $25 doallar part that requires 15 hours of labor to replace, and end up running 3k to do. I could go on, but I'm sure you get the point.
As for the cost, I could be wrong, as I'm not a car salesman; but I believe the finance people get a financial incentive to sell those things. I'm also pretty sure there is a HUGE mark up on them. Hence why the dealerships love to sell them. but If you hold out and bargain hard, you should be able to get a platinum 10yr 100k extended warranty for somewhere between 1000 and 1500. yea, thats a good chunk of money. but having spent nearly 20k on the car, 10 years of worry free driving makes it seem like a good deal to me.
#42 of 281 replace CVT tran. with manual tran.
Apr 15, 2009 (1:27 pm)
I have an Altima 2.5s 2008 with CVT tran. and I would like to change this one with manual tran
Could someone give me informations about the cost and if it posibile to be done.
#43 of 281 Re: replace CVT tran. with manual tran. [nexusprime]
Apr 15, 2009 (4:52 pm)
It's not worth the money. You would have to have the shifter, tranny, and clutch installed. You'd be better off selling your current car and buying one with a manual transmission.
#44 of 281 Re: Love the CVT [karpediem]
Apr 16, 2009 (11:25 am)
I just purchased the Altima V6 SE last week and it drives nice and smooth with a lots of power and low rpm.
#45 of 281 Re: Love the CVT [dajani]
Apr 16, 2009 (11:37 am)
The V6 runs much more smoothly than the 4 cyl. I did not experience jerkiness at low speeds or vibration at highway cruising speeds.
You made a great choice. I wish you years of great fun and operation in your new car.
#46 of 281 Re: Love the CVT [greengoddess]
Apr 17, 2009 (3:58 pm)
What is this "jerkiness at low speeds or vibration at highway cruising speeds" that you speak of??? I've been driving the 4 cyl CVT (08 Altima 2.5) for 18 months now and have not experienced any of that! It was the best 4 cyl engine of many that I checked out before buying (Sonata, Accord, CR-V, Camry, RAV-4) - smooth, yet responsive with plenty of pick-up when needed.
BTW, before that I drove a Maxima (V6) for 6+ years and am so glad that I "downsized" - a lot better fuel economy. Plus, I don't miss that torque when accelerating.....
#47 of 281 Re: Love the CVT [godeacs]
Apr 18, 2009 (8:19 am)
I don't experience the vibration at high speed. I'm not sure what most people are talking about there.
However, I do get some jerkiness at speeds under 40mph. My guess is it's just because the CVT has a limited number of set ratios at lower RPMs. I know it's the CVT "shift-logic" because if you move it over to manual mode and shift it that way, the engine is very smooth and pretty refined feeling. There's absolutely no jerking in manual mode other than what you feel when you shift between ratios.
(Now enter theory stuff)
I believe that with the next generation of Altima we'll see both engines get significantly redesigned. Now that Nissan has established that CVT-based vehicles are what they wish to pursue, I think they're going to start designing their engines around this. As of right now, they're currently designing the CVT to be compatible with their chosen engines. However, if you design the ENGINE to also be compatible with the CVT, the refinement will reach a whole new level.
The current engines are very content with a manual gearbox, but a little sluggish with the CVT. That's because the engines aren't designed to take advantage of a CVT's gearless system. In other words, the engines have very specific power bands, and thus, it only feels energetic when the engine is in that power band. I believe we're going to see more torque and horsepower from lower RPMs and the peak will be far lower in the rev-band as well. That way, cars will feel much more energetic from a stop AND there won't be a "flat line" on power between 2000-3000RPMs (in the 4-cyl). This should also eliminate jerkiness from the lower revs, as the CVT won't have to shift as much to keep the power up.
1st generation CVT: high rev acceleration, rubber-band feeling
2nd (current) generation CVT: smoother acceleration, higher horsepower engines
3rd (future) generation CVT: engines designed for CVT, MUCH quicker acceleration, more linear power delivery.
This is only speculation, but if you're a fan of CVT based Nissan cars, I think it's about to get a lot better in the 3rd generation. The first 2 generations were test beds to see if it would work. Now that Nissan knows it works (and is selling well) they should invest a lot more in their powerplants this time around. Only time will tell though.