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Altima shopping - CVT tranny issues - pls help by wantanaltima
Mar 09, 2009 (3:50 pm)
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Hi guys and girls...I'm looking at getting a 2009 Altima 2.5 S w/ the auto CVT transmission. In my research, I've read a lot about the knocking, grinding and speed issues but my main concern is about the transmission breaking down. I have heard that if the belt goes, you have to replace the transmission. Does anyone know much about this or know how often this actually happens. My mechanic and his transmission shop have never worked on a CVT so they provided no help on this issue. I love the Altima and can live with some of the noise/shaking if I can drive with confidence that I won't have to buy a new $4000 transmission as soon as the warranty runs out. Any help is much appreciated.
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Re: Altima shopping - CVT tranny issues - pls help [wantanaltima] by jd10013
Mar 14, 2009 (5:54 am)
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Replying to: wantanaltima (Mar 09, 2009 3:50 pm)

ok, I'll try to exlain this as best I can. fist off, the CVT doesn't use a "belt". It's actually a chain. Much like a timing chain, so long as it lubercated with clean transmission fluid, It's not going to break. In other words, service the transmission at the proper intervals and you wont have to worry about it.
 
As for the reliability, Nissan says that their CVT has been (bassed on waranty claim numbers) more reliable than their automatic transmission. Now that what nissan says, but I tend to agree with them. I do not believe they would expanding their use if they knew they were inferior. It just wouldn't make sense from a business standpoint.
 
But one way to look at the CVT is like this:
Basically, it consists of two pullies connected with a belt (chain). There are no gears, gear cluster or any of the other parts in a conventional automatic transmission. That pretty much means there are far fewer things to go wrong with it.
 
Personally, I would see no reason to worry about it. they're not new. Nissan first started using them with the murano back in 2002 or something like that. and now, with several generations of them having been made, the bugs and quirks have been worked out.
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Re: Altima shopping - CVT tranny issues - pls help [jd10013] by wantanaltima
Mar 14, 2009 (6:36 am)
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Replying to: jd10013 (Mar 14, 2009 5:54 am)

Thanks for the great explanation. I'm debating between the always reliable Civic Sedan and the Altima 2.5s. My concerns stem from talking to mechanic shops who have told me that you can't repair parts on a CVT tranny, you can only replace the tranny. In Canada/Toronto, the cost is approx $5000 to $6000. Which means after the warranty period of 100,000 kilometres, you're looking at spending about as much on a new transmission as the car is probably worth.
 
There are lots of forums on the web with people complaining about their reliability and Nissan's inability/lack of motivation to fix them. I've already been told that tranny shops aren't seeing them in for repairs b/c you can't repair them. And they're not getting the Altima's in for replacement as it's cheaper to just get it done through Nissan directly...sort of a captive market created by Nissan.
 
Consumer's reports say nothing bad at all about the CVT transmission. I do absolutely service my current car as much as required and always do the "recommended" items just to spoil it so it treats me better in the long run.
 
I'm still really on the fence with this.
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Re: Altima shopping - CVT tranny issues - pls help [wantanaltima] by implementall
Mar 14, 2009 (8:35 pm)
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Replying to: wantanaltima (Mar 14, 2009 6:36 am)

DO NOT - DO NOT purchase the Alitma. The tranny can only be service by Nissan - other mechanics do not want to touch it.
 
I purchase a 2007 Altima in July of 2007 and due to my long commute to/from work, I've place a lot of miles on the vehicle. After hearing an unusual noise, I had the dealership look at it, they told me I need a new transmission. parts cannot be replace, you must purchase the entire tranny. I only have 66,000 miles on the car. Of course they do not want to provide any assistance for replacement to fix the car. I would not recommend purchasing Nissan vehicles.
 
I returned to the Service Manager to plea my case and is currently waiting for a response.
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Re: Altima shopping - CVT tranny issues - pls help [wantanaltima] by jd10013
Mar 15, 2009 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: wantanaltima (Mar 14, 2009 6:36 am)

Keep in mind, rebuilding or replacing an automatic transmission will be in excess of 4 grand. its not as though an auto is cheap to replace either. However, if reliability is your primary concern, buy something with a manual transmission, as you'll never need to replace anything but the clutch, if that.
 
Transmission shops will replace them, and are probably cheaper than a dealership. Like I told you before, they are actually much less complicated than an automatic transmission. And don't put much stock into what you see on message board on the internet. People seldom go to message boards for any other reason than to complain, vent, and talk bad about the car they're having problems with. nothing wrong with that, it is what it is.
 
As for you choice, thats a tough decision to make. I own both a civic and an altima; and both are great cars.
 
but which ever one you get, BUY THE EXTENDED WARRANTY! I can't overstate that enough. first off, you can get them cheap. Dealerships love to sell them, and will give you a great deal on one if you push for it. getting one for half the price they initially offer you in not uncommon. And second, fixing cars is expensive. Auto or CVT, replacing (or in the case of an auto, rebuilding) will cost thousands. And even honda (despite their stellar record) have had problems with their auto transmissions before. but aside from transmissions, it just isn't that hard to need a thousand or more in repairs for a car. It's just not worth taking the chance.
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Re: Altima shopping - CVT tranny issues - pls help [jd10013] by wantanaltima
Mar 15, 2009 (7:36 am)
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Replying to: jd10013 (Mar 15, 2009 7:26 am)

Funny you mention getting a manual tranny. I've never driven stick and have tried but didn't like it. The fact that I really love this car has made me start thinking again about taking lessons! lol.
 
I totally agree with you about internet hype and I take everything with a grain of salt.
 
Regarding the Extended warranty, i agree for the Altima it's probably a good buy. A friend of mine who knows tonnes about cars and knows that I'd probably buy the Altima even if I knew there were inherent problems with it suggested getting the extended warranty too. I very well may try to do that and haggle the guy on the price. I'm in Canada so I'm not sure how much they will haggle on the price of that like they do in the US. I will definitely try though...that's just my nature.
 
Thank you so much for the info so far. I really appreciate it. Any other insights are gladly welcomed as it sounds like we think on the same wavelength.
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Re: Altima shopping - CVT tranny issues - pls help [wantanaltima] by jd10013
Mar 15, 2009 (2:21 pm)
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Replying to: wantanaltima (Mar 15, 2009 7:36 am)

No need to go as far as learning how to drive a stick. think of it this way with the CVT. It's totally optional on nissans part. they still use autos on their trucks and suv's. they have perfectly good automatic transmission on the shelf. If the CVT were flawed, or there were know problems with it, or problems with its long term reliability................................ Nissan would just go back to an auto trans. they have plenty already, and could switch over in in a matter of weeks. It's not as though their stuck with using CVT's. And personally, I just can't imagine they're risk the future of the company for no reason.
 
another thing you might want to know about CVT' is, nissan is not the first company to use them. ford used them before, as has subaru. and I believe both toyota and honda offer them in foreign markets. Nissan is simply the first company to make widespread use of them in the all so important North American market. the CVT is neither new, nor revolutionary. The only two factors that have held them back are finding a material for the belt that will hold up in higher torque and HP cars, and public acceptance. Nissan solved the first, and is working on the second.
 
as for warranties, the transmission is just one reason to get one. anything on a car can cost a fortune to fix. even something as simple as a power window motor can run $600 to fix. A blown head gasket can run $1600. so much depends on the car. you could have a $25 doallar part that requires 15 hours of labor to replace, and end up running 3k to do. I could go on, but I'm sure you get the point.
 
As for the cost, I could be wrong, as I'm not a car salesman; but I believe the finance people get a financial incentive to sell those things. I'm also pretty sure there is a HUGE mark up on them. Hence why the dealerships love to sell them. but If you hold out and bargain hard, you should be able to get a platinum 10yr 100k extended warranty for somewhere between 1000 and 1500. yea, thats a good chunk of money. but having spent nearly 20k on the car, 10 years of worry free driving makes it seem like a good deal to me.
#42 of 84
replace CVT tran. with manual tran. by nexusprime
Apr 15, 2009 (1:27 pm)
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Hello,
 
I have an Altima 2.5s 2008 with CVT tran. and I would like to change this one with manual tran
 
Could someone give me informations about the cost and if it posibile to be done.
 
Thanks
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Re: replace CVT tran. with manual tran. [nexusprime] by madpistol
Apr 15, 2009 (4:52 pm)
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Replying to: nexusprime (Apr 15, 2009 1:27 pm)

It's not worth the money. You would have to have the shifter, tranny, and clutch installed. You'd be better off selling your current car and buying one with a manual transmission.

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