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#129 of 150 Noise in Camry 2003 engine
by aasante
Feb 15, 2012 (12:08 pm)
Hello,
I've been having some noise coming from my engine. The car has only 54850 miles on it. It sounded like it was coming from the exhaust but when an exhaust specialist checked he told me it was from the engine and advised me to take it to the dealership.
The dealership couldn't diagnose the problem either but told me that it could be from the intake manifold. They wanted to take the engine apart to be certain but then I wouldn't be able to drive the car. They didn't know how much it was going to cost me but when I insisted on an estimate they said it would cost me close to $1500.00. I thought that wasn't good enough since they didn't know exactly what the problem was. I have since gone to 2 other mechanics who couldn't tell me what the problem is. The last one said it could be from the timing chain being loose.
A few times when I've driven the car for sometime I don't hear the noise but most of the time it's there; I've had this noise for about a year or so now.
At this point I don't know what to believe. Has anyone had this problem? Any ideas? Any help would be greatly appreciated
#130 of 150 P0420 Code, resolution not always expensive
by tech_jack
Mar 18, 2012 (7:22 pm)
Replacing catalytic converters and O2 sensors should be the last resort, not the first. These components in most cases are only providing feedback on the underlying issue. These components are very durable and should rarely need replacing. My experience is that they will last the life of the vehicle in most cases.
The most common underlying issue is with excessive emmissions. So focus on the simple stuff first:
o Gas cap - Inspect condition of cap ring gasket, if any doubt replace it
o PCV valve - Replace it or thoroughly clean it with throttle body cleaner
o Vacuum leak - Thoroughly check all hoses for looseness or cracks. Also check that each hose contains no clogs. Clogs are more common than you might think.
o Clean fuel injectors - Add a good quality injector cleaner to a tank of gas such as Seafoam.
Performing the above recommendations has resolved the P0420 code for me multiple times among 4 vehicles. And the great part was the small expense.
Happy motoring!
#131 of 150 Re: PZEV Camry Catalytic Convertor 15yrs/150,000 warranty in NY [saminny]
by danny2030
Mar 23, 2012 (11:14 am)
Hi,
is there a number I can call? I just spoke to Plaza Toyota and they are refusing to replace the cat as per manager Mike. I explained what I could but it does not seem to work. They claim its out of warranty. They quoted me $3140. This is crazy!
Thank you!
#132 of 150 Re: PZEV Camry Catalytic Convertor 15yrs/150,000 warranty in NY [danny2030]
by tech_jack
Mar 23, 2012 (11:36 am)
It would be extremely rare if your issue is the CAT or O2 sensors. The service advisor knows that. It is most likely an emissions issue caused by something simple.
Please focus on my previous recommendations. Then disconnect the battery which will reset the computer. If your battery has top terminals have them cleaned and treated while you have the cables off.
I prefer not to post my phone number on this forum. Just send me additional questions as needed.
#133 of 150 Re: PZEV Camry Catalytic Convertor 15yrs/150,000 warranty in NY [tech_jack]
by danny2030
Mar 23, 2012 (11:56 am)
i am pretty sure it is cat converter. its 2006 148000 miles PZEV TOYOTA CAMRY. Dealer confirmed it is cat, but does not want to replace it under the extended warranty.
#134 of 150 Re: PZEV Camry Catalytic Convertor 15yrs/150,000 warranty in NY [danny2030]
by tech_jack
Mar 23, 2012 (12:12 pm)
Cats are extremely durable and should easily last beyond 300K miles. The dealer needs to provide details of their findings. If a cat goes bad it is due to another underlying emissions issue or physical damage.
If you do replace it be sure to use the OEM part and not a universal unit.
Good luck with this!
#135 of 150 Re: PZEV Camry Catalytic Convertor 15yrs/150,000 warranty in NY [tech_jack]
by danny2030
Mar 23, 2012 (11:15 pm)
Thank you very much teck jack!
Plaza Toyota quoted me $3140 on the phone (they said both front and rear cats had to be replaced) and said the car is out of warranty as per service manager Michael Alvarez (despite the fact its PZEV). . I called 800 number and they easily pulled up warranty info and confirmed it is still under warranty. Cust service rep sent a ticket to Michael Alvarez so he can see its covered. After he saw a ticket he wanted to check the car again and they brought it back from their lot "to make sure". After checking the car the second time they finally changed the estimate to $1100 (changing the paperwork too) saying only front had to be replaced. (???) But this time claiming the air filter is "dirty" and the brakes are "low" so the car is "not properly maintained" and that's why its not covered under the warranty. I don't understand their reasoning at all. The car was checked out by a good mechanic yesterday and he said the car needed nothing else but cat converter. (air filter and brakes seemed fine to him).
It is very upsetting that Toyota dealer will treat me like this. I am not going leave it like this and will fight it. Will keep you guys posted.
#136 of 150 Re: PZEV Camry Catalytic Convertor 15yrs/150,000 warranty in NY [danny2030]
by saminny
Mar 29, 2012 (4:53 am)
Hi danny2030, sorry for the late response as i did not follow up on the posts. i had my cat replaced from westbury toyota. incase ur car has not crossed 150k miles provide me ur number and i will be glad to help.
#137 of 150 Re: PZEV Camry Catalytic Convertor 15yrs/150,000 warranty in NY [saminny]
by cmacki
Mar 29, 2012 (5:37 am)
Hi Danny,
My car has 154,000 miles and I have had my car checked before I hit the 154,000 at the dealer. They told me 8 years 80,000 miles. If you can give me any information please let me know.
Thanks,
Corene
#138 of 150 Re: PZEV Camry Catalytic Convertor 15yrs/150,000 warranty in NY [saminny]
by danny2030
Mar 29, 2012 (6:55 am)
Hi saminny!
I am still trying to fight this system. Will def make an appointment with them. Its 148500 now.
thank you!