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New Sonata missing PS by tomw6
Nov 01, 2009 (11:51 am)
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Replying to: tomw6 (Nov 01, 2009 11:48 am)

Forgot to say that it's a V6.
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Re: New Sonata missing? [tomw6] by backy
Nov 01, 2009 (12:30 pm)
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Replying to: tomw6 (Nov 01, 2009 11:48 am)

At that RPM it could be lugging. But it shouldn't do that just idling at stop.
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Re: 2009 Sonate door repainted [backy] by 8babies1dog
Nov 01, 2009 (2:45 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Nov 01, 2009 10:47 am)

You may be right, it could or could not be a law that requires anyone to do this.
I don't know about that but the dealership where I bought the Sonata is locally
owned by a family that also owns several other dealerships. Toyota, Nissan and
something else I think GMC, and the Hyundai, all separate places but same owners. They have been in business for over 30 years probably much longer than
carfax. The man that owns these is a hands on type of guy very up and up, I have been buying vehicles from him since he went in business. His policy has always
stayed the same if any new car comes through his places and has anything done
as far as repair like broken glass, repaint a scratch or whatever it is documented and
disclosed to the buyer, all you have to do is ask. Now if you or anyone else has a
dealership that don't stand behind their cars, then it may be time for a change wouldn't you say.
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Re: the dealer did it! [necostanzo] by espo35
Nov 02, 2009 (9:30 am)
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Replying to: necostanzo (Oct 31, 2009 9:55 pm)

and what amount of defects is Hyundai experiencing with their paint and the Alabama plant.
 
Slim and none...and Slim just left town.
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Re: 2009 Sonate door repainted [necostanzo] by 8babies1dog
Nov 02, 2009 (1:43 pm)
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Replying to: necostanzo (Oct 30, 2009 10:10 pm)

Why would it be so far fetched to think it could not have happened at the assembly
plant. I have not visited the Sonata car maker in Alabama but have come across
quite a bit of info during research. It sounds like it is a very modern high tech place.
If this is such they probably utilize the same kind of equipment as most of the
others use. There are hundreds of car bodies painted every work day, the trunk lid,
the hood and the doors are not on the body when painted, this painting is done
by robotic computer controlled machines. We all know that machines and computers are dfifinetly not foolproof, so things will happen. That is why these companies also have so many quality inspectors to catch paint blemishes on the
final product. When it is found I dont think that car is thrown away, it is fixed, and
if it is a door it could very well be fixed in place like a body shop maybe better, but
maybe not perfect "over spray?" or the like. Since it was only caught by very
close observation by a critical eye it is not hard for me to believe it couldn't have
happened at the factory. Would they keep records on exactly what car it was done
on, your guess is as good as mine. It may not have been any damage on the door
just repaint, again who knows. This is just a thought, no one has to agree!
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Re: 2009 Sonate door repainted [8babies1dog] by espo35
Nov 02, 2009 (2:06 pm)
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Replying to: 8babies1dog (Nov 02, 2009 1:43 pm)

While anything is possible, I just can't see it happening. Hyundai would NEVER ship a car that is sub-standard. Their whole future is based on quality. They take the JD Power Survey in initial quality as gospel. Anyone who made the decision to ship a sub-standard car would be fired immediately.
No B.S.
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Re: 2009 Sonate door repainted [espo35] by 8babies1dog
Nov 02, 2009 (4:05 pm)
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Replying to: espo35 (Nov 02, 2009 2:06 pm)

I agree with your point of view and I would hope no carmaker would intentionally
ship a vehicle out that don't meet their standards, more importantly our standards.
In a perfect world that could happen, unfortunatly no one alive is perfect and
most every man made item is not perfect including robots. As you said anything
is possible. Lets say the painted door was actually done by the high tech paint
machine and that is how it came out and the inspector for that area was thinking
about his girlfriend or something, he or she could have missed it since it was hard to find according to the owner. How would anyone know? If a paint mill gauge don't
detect it that would be kind of hard to do without sanding the entire door down.
This is my opinion only.
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Re: 2009 Sonate door repainted [8babies1dog] by wayne21
Nov 02, 2009 (4:28 pm)
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Replying to: 8babies1dog (Nov 02, 2009 1:43 pm)

My wife and I took a trip to Montgomery Al and while there we toured the hyundai plant. Top notch indeed! But I believe the doors and hood and trunk lid ARE on the car when it is dipped and painted.
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Re: 2009 Sonate door repainted [wayne21] by wayne52
Nov 02, 2009 (4:42 pm)
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Replying to: wayne21 (Nov 02, 2009 4:28 pm)

I recently toured the hyundai plant in montgomery. They showed a video and it had the doors/hood/trunk on the car when they painted it. So I think paint problems occured in transit or at the dealership.
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Re: 2009 Sonate door repainted [wayne52] by 8babies1dog
Nov 02, 2009 (8:40 pm)
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Replying to: wayne52 (Nov 02, 2009 4:42 pm)

Point well taken every car maker has their own system, if you dig a little deeper
you may find that even Hyundai don't permanitly attach the doors, hood, or trunk
lid for paint process, they are taken off at the start of the final assembly line and
brought to an area to put the finishing touches such as on the doors, power window
parts, remote trunk and gas door, glass etc. and the liner. For the hood and trunk lid the insulation is put in and the little hydraulic cylinders are attached the locking
assembly is put in. The main reason these things are taken off is to allow the
robot equipment to install interiors like all the dash, seats, actually everything
including complete drive train. What I am getting at is with all this taking off and
putting on, moving and handling can the final paint job on it be scratched or damaged some way, and will the same door or hood go back on the same car it
came off of, there are many cars painted the same color on the line at 1 time. On
the tour it didn't show that part step by step I presume, maybe they don't want that
part to be seen. All this is not exclusive to Hyundai check the GM assembly line
some of their older plants still paint cars by hand and put doors and things on after
final assembly. You have probably heard of new cars being bought with factory
defects are even with parts missing, if you by enough of them you have a very
good chance of getting one also, feel very lucky if you don't have one already! Do you have a new one?

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