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Re: Another Profession Review Lambasts Sonata's Suspension [LASHAWN] by stephen987
Jul 09, 2009 (9:33 am)
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Replying to: LASHAWN (Jul 09, 2009 9:25 am)

If the quality is not consistent from one example to the next, within the same model line, then YES, that makes it a bad bet. It also makes some of them--the ones with the suspension noise--bad cars.
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Re: Another Profession Review Lambasts Sonata's Suspension [LASHAWN] by dovid2
Jul 09, 2009 (9:35 am)
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Replying to: LASHAWN (Jul 09, 2009 9:25 am)

Good point, Lashawn. The testers that reviewers get have frequently been put through the wringer, especially as other reviewers want to drive even a family car at the limits. I remember a review of the CTS when it first came out that admitted the clutch was already worn when it was received.
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Re: Another Profession Review Lambasts Sonata's Suspension [mikemartin] by kenlight1
Jul 09, 2009 (9:41 am)
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Replying to: mikemartin (Jul 08, 2009 9:13 pm)

Back from your message 794
 
>I'm posting this just as a reference point because some of the people who have >claimed that those complaining about suspension thunks and rattles are trolls or >troublemakers.
   
>I came across this on the Hyundai Owners' Forums.
   
>http://www.canadiandriver.com/2008/10/01/test-drive-2009-hyundai-sonata-limited-- - - - - - four-cylinder.htm
 
Anybody who reads the review will see that it is a very positive review. About the only negative starts out with the phrase "If there's a fault...".
Reading comprehension tells me that the reviewer had to grasp at straws to come up with a negative. So this is where I believe you make the attempt to change day into night.
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after market struts by wrs4
Jul 09, 2009 (11:15 am)
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While not having any problems with suspension noises with 15000 miles on my 09 Sonata limited. Just wondering if there any after market struts available and what the price would be?
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We all need to take a breath by james1982
Jul 09, 2009 (11:20 am)
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I think that our posts are getting out of hand on this issue. Seriously, as I scroll down, the comments are becoming more and more passive aggressive.
 
On that note, I'm going to troll the Accord forums and start a fight! Who's with me?! =)
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Re: We all need to take a breath [james1982] by mikemartin
Jul 09, 2009 (5:34 pm)
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Replying to: james1982 (Jul 09, 2009 11:20 am)

I am moving on as I noticed Hyundai has really raised the prices on the Sonata, by reducing rebates, and by truly raising the price on the 09.
 
The Sonata no longer holds any real value proposition to a comparably equipped Camry, Mazda6 or Nissan Altima, quality differences and resale value issues aside.
 
Given a choice between an Altima or Mazda6 at even a grand more than the Sonata, I'll take either over the Altima all day long, as I won't get slaughtered nearly as badly when I sell my car.
 
They improved the Sonata with the 2009 redesign, but only time will tell how it will fare durability wise, and CR already has marked the Sonata down to just 'average reliability,' negative suspension comments by professional reviewers (and many owners) aside.
 
I predict Hyundai is fishing in uncharted waters with its pricing that creep ever so closer to the established Japanese mainstays, and it will suffer blowback for it in upcoming sales' numbers.
 
On one final note, the local Hyundai Dealership had a Veracruz with a 40k sticker price. Are they on crack? Has Hyundai lost its mind? Who would buy that when they can get a Lexus RX350 for a few grand more?
 
Wow. Just wow.
 
Cheers to all and good health and luck to you.
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Re: Suspension noise [jack47] by dovid2
Jul 10, 2009 (9:15 am)
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Replying to: jack47 (Jul 08, 2009 1:03 pm)

Thanks, jack, I was pretty sure I had checked them, but I did so again, and hot, they were at 36psi, which is where I wanted them.
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Re: We all need to take a breath [mikemartin] by LASHAWN
Jul 10, 2009 (10:58 am)
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Replying to: mikemartin (Jul 09, 2009 5:34 pm)

What extra options did that Veracruz have on it to justify a $40k price? My local Hyundai Dealer here is Savannah, GA has a base 09 Sonata on their lot and their asking $26k for it. But in their defense it has 20" wheels, aftermarket leather seating, navigation, rear spoiler(just the right size) and xenon headlights on it.
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Re: We all need to take a breath [LASHAWN] by mikemartin
Jul 10, 2009 (4:16 pm)
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Replying to: LASHAWN (Jul 10, 2009 10:58 am)

Lashawn, it had everything, including backup camera.
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Re: We all need to take a breath [mikemartin] by mikemartin
Jul 10, 2009 (7:36 pm)
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Replying to: mikemartin (Jul 10, 2009 4:16 pm)

Lashawn, I just now took in the gravity of your post about the 26k Sonata. That's crazy.
 
Just back in March, high volume Hyundai dealers were selling new 2009 GLS Sonatas w/automatic transmissions and the other standard goods (MSRP of about $20,650) for as low as $13,400 plus TTL. This was at places like Fitz and Brown's.
 
At Fitz, the only thing they add to the price is a $99 doc fee in addition to straight up TTL.
 
Now, those same cars are around $15,200 or $15,300.
 
This is obviously a direct result of Hyundai taking consumer and dealer cash incentives down to $3000 from $5000.
 
Regardless as to how anyone feels about Hyundai compared to the Japanese competition, and given resale values (which will not rise as a function of increasing the price of new Hyundais, despite what at least one person has said), it is a fact that Hyundai resale value is far worse than Honda, Toyota, Nissan or Mazda.
 
So, in order to spark sales again, which are sagging, Hyundai will inevitably increase the incentives. It's only a matter of time.
 
Consumers aren't stupid en masse (select individuals may be), and they'll response positively and negatively in accordance with corollary moves by Hyundai in pricing their cars appropriately. What one hand giveth (incentives up front for a less expensive car compared to the competition), the other hand (resale values compared to the competition) taketh away.
 
Also, it would be smart for Hyundai to make their 10 year/100,000 mile Powertrain warranty fully transferable on resale.

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