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Another Profession Review Lambasts Sonata's Suspension by mikemartin
Jul 06, 2009 (7:04 pm)
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Replying to: sandman_6472 (Jul 06, 2009 8:17 am)

I don't think there should be any doubt that the Sonata has a suspension problem. I've posted at least a half dozen professional reviews whereby the driver specifically went out of his or her way to criticize the Sonata suspension as flawed, and just today, came across this Cars.com heavy-handed criticism by Cars.com editor Mike Hanley:
 
http://ask.cars.com/2009/03/hyundai-sonata-and-mazda6.html
 
But as Cars.com editor Mike Hanley points out in his review, the “Sonata's suspension is loud when traveling on rough roads; from the driver's seat, it sounds as if the suspension has more than 100,000 miles on it thanks to all its rattling.”
 
So, with each passing review, it would appear that those who complained about their Sonata's suspension are vindicated, no?
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Re: Another Profession Review Lambasts Sonata's Suspension [mikemartin] by backy
Jul 06, 2009 (7:24 pm)
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Replying to: mikemartin (Jul 06, 2009 7:04 pm)

If I owned a new car that rattled that much, I'd drive it straight to the dealer and demand it be fixed or replaced. I've never driven a new car, any new car, that had a suspension that rattled to that extent. And I've been driving new cars since 1976. Including many Gen 4 Sonatas.
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Re: Another Profession Review Lambasts Sonata's Suspension [backy] by newowner10
Jul 07, 2009 (3:36 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 06, 2009 7:24 pm)

I do not believe anyone denies that the suspension clunks and is louder than expected. The debate is whether it is a safety issue or just an annoyance and whether it is a "Lemon Law" item. I look at the Sonata as an inexpensive vehicle that gets you from point A to B.
If money was not a concern I would have purchased a Honda. If you look at the prices people report purchasing a Sonata for it is much less expensive than the competition.
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Re: Another Profession Review Lambasts Sonata's Suspension [mikemartin] by jack47
Jul 07, 2009 (4:59 am)
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Replying to: mikemartin (Jul 06, 2009 7:04 pm)

The rest of the story not shown in post # 860...
 
...The Mazda6 rides very firm and is sometimes bouncy, which is predictable if you want a midsize sedan that handles sportingly. The sometimes-bouncy ride could, however, be off-putting to those who don’t necessarily want a performance experience. If that experience isn’t on your list of “must-haves,” then the Sonata’s softer suspension and more comfortable ride might be a better choice. But as Cars.com editor Mike Hanley points out in his review, the “Sonata's suspension is loud when traveling on rough roads; from the driver's seat, it sounds as if the suspension has more than 100,000 miles on it thanks to all its rattling.”
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Re: Another Profession Review Lambasts Sonata's Suspension [jack47] by mikemartin
Jul 07, 2009 (5:28 am)
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Replying to: jack47 (Jul 07, 2009 4:59 am)

Maybe it's just me, but I'd much prefer a sporty suspension that may be firmer, but is solid and doesn't make unnerving noises, than one that sounds like it's broken or has 100,000 miles on it when it's new, like so many have commented on with the Sonata.
 
A firm suspension has never bother me. In fact, if a car is solid, I prefer a firm suspension. This attribute is what makes the 'European' flavor driving experience a premium one.
 
With the Sonata, it would appear many get the worst of both worlds: A very softly sprung suspension that gives little handling capability along with clanking and clunking noises when riding over bad roads.
 
That's not something that is acceptable in new car.
 
The Mazda6 rides very firm and is sometimes bouncy, which is predictable if you want a midsize sedan that handles sportingly. The sometimes-bouncy ride could, however, be off-putting to those who don’t necessarily want a performance experience. If that experience isn’t on your list of “must-haves,” then the Sonata’s softer suspension and more comfortable ride might be a better choice. But as Cars.com editor Mike Hanley points out in his review, the “Sonata's suspension is loud when traveling on rough roads; from the driver's seat, it sounds as if the suspension has more than 100,000 miles on it thanks to all its rattling.”
 
I doubt Cars.com editor (aka head honcho) Mike Hanley has any reason to lie about his bad experience with the Sonata's ride quality, do you?
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Re: Another Profession Review Lambasts Sonata's Suspension [mikemartin] by tenpin288
Jul 07, 2009 (6:35 am)
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Replying to: mikemartin (Jul 07, 2009 5:28 am)

I doubt Cars.com editor (aka head honcho) Mike Hanley has any reason to lie about his bad experience with the Sonata's ride quality, do you?
 
Not likely, although our experience directly refutes his experience. We own an 09 Sonata Limited (my wife's daily driver) and we couldn't be happier. It is quiet, rides comfortably, and does not exhibit any undue handling or ride quality problems on our "very rough" roads here in the mountains of south-central PA. You need to remember that these problems that are reported by car editors are usually found while driving these vehicles at maybe 90%+ of the suspension limits while most of us "ordinary" folks will rarely exceed 50-60% of the car's limits. Hence the great disparity between reviews and most real-world experiences.
 
Oh, and I would hardly call what he said "lambasting" the Sonata's suspension. He did say it was noisy/rattled but nowhere did he mention that it was unsafe or a poor handling vehicle. Methinks your protestations are a little too strong, but to each their own.
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Re: Another Profession Review Lambasts Sonata's Suspension [tenpin288] by stephen987
Jul 07, 2009 (6:42 am)
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Replying to: tenpin288 (Jul 07, 2009 6:35 am)

Problems that are reported by car editors are usually found while driving these vehicles at maybe 90%+ of the suspension limits while most of us "ordinary" folks will rarely exceed 50-60% of the car's limits.
 
What about unexpected situations, emergency handling, etc.? That's when confidence in the car's suspension matters most to me. So I want them to push the limits, so they can tell me how it handles when it matters.
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Re: Another Profession Review Lambasts Sonata's Suspension [stephen987] by tenpin288
Jul 07, 2009 (6:49 am)
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Replying to: stephen987 (Jul 07, 2009 6:42 am)

He did not mention that it was unsafe or a poor handling vehicle, just noisy. Our experience so far is that it is a very competent handling car and very safe, with the included ABS/TCS/ESC. In fact, go back a few months and you will find that the Sonata was second in a 10 car comparo by Motor Trend, losing only to the Passat.
Motor Trend Comparo
 
 
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Re: Another Profession Review Lambasts Sonata's Suspension [tenpin288] by mikemartin
Jul 07, 2009 (8:15 am)
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Replying to: tenpin288 (Jul 07, 2009 6:35 am)

I would hardly call what he said "lambasting" the Sonata's suspension. He did say it was noisy/rattled but nowhere did he mention that it was unsafe or a poor handling vehicle. Methinks your protestations are a little too strong, but to each their own
 
He was driving a brand new Sonata. If this isn't "lambasting" the suspension quality, I have no idea what would be:
 
"Cars.com editor Mike Hanley points out in his review, the “Sonata's suspension is loud when traveling on rough roads; from the driver's seat, it sounds as if the suspension has more than 100,000 miles on it thanks to all its rattling.” '
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Re: Another Profession Review Lambasts Sonata's Suspension [mikemartin] by tenpin288
Jul 07, 2009 (11:32 am)
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Replying to: mikemartin (Jul 07, 2009 8:15 am)

Not to be a nitpicker or split hairs over semantics, but to me his comments do not rise to the level of "lambasting" as far as the usual accepted definitions are concerned.
 
From Dictionary. com: definition of "lambaste"
1. to beat or whip severely.
2. to reprimand or berate harshly; censure; excoriate.
3. To give a thrashing to; beat.
4. To scold sharply; berate.
 
Sorry, he made a comment, an observation, a personal (albeit professional) judgement. He did not "lambaste" the Sonata's suspension.

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