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Re: No More Sonata Soon [dgs4] by chrrmurp
May 14, 2009 (2:33 pm)
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Replying to: dgs4 (May 02, 2009 8:37 pm)

I have to chime in here and agree with a few of the items dgs4 listed in the original list of complaints about the 2009 Sonata that he/she is now selling. I have a 2009 Sonata V6 Limited with about 26,500 miles on it. I've had it for one year and have written to this forum about several of these issues in the past. The difference between us is that I've actually taken my car in for these issues. Unfortunately, most of the issues still persist.
 
1. Transmission: Rough shifting from 1-2 and then jolting when slowing down from a highway ramp when it downshifts. My car has done this since day one. I took it to the dealership about it and they reset the adaptive learning control on the transmission (the computer learns how you drive the car and adjusts how it shifts accordingly). This helped and it is a little better, but it still does it and it is very annoying to me. I have read reviews that the shifting on these is rougher than competitors, however. It is what it is, I guess.
 
2. Navigation locks up. I had this issue as well. I took it in to the dealer and they performed an update to it (there was a known issue about it). That did help, but it still locks up every so often - just less frequently than before.
 
3. Suspension noises and crackling in dashboard. These are there and I notice them, but they do not bother me as much as the first two items.
 
4. Speaker vibrating at medium volume. I have this issue in my passenger door speaker. I believe there is something rattling inside the door though - not the speaker. I plan to have the dealership look at this the next time I take it in for an oil change.
 
5. This has not been mentioned, but mine stalled out twice when turning the steering wheel while stopped when I first bought it. There was a recall for this ("Rough Idle" it was called) and the dealer fixed it with a computer update that took over an hour.
 
6. My car pulls to the left on the highway. I've written in about this - I had four alignments, tires balanced, etc - it still does it. There was a recall on a part in the cradle assembly of some of the models manufactured early on that was causing this to happen. Mine was manufactured with the good part though (the dealer can look at the code on it to tell if it's the recalled part or not). So right now they still don't know why it is doing this. They said the technical place they call is aware of it, but doesn't have a fix for it yet.
 
I feel like when you purchase a new car, you shouldn't have to take it into the dealer constantly and that is all I have done my first year of ownership. In addition to oil changes/standard maintenance, I've had to make several additional trips to the dealership. I had an older car before this one and it was always in the shop so I bought this new car thinking I would not have to take it in all of the time. I'm happy that Hyundai has good customer service and the warranty has covered these things but it has been a real inconvenience taking time off work and trying to find time to take the car in and waiting for these repairs. The dealership by me is only open 7:30am - 6pm M-F and not open on weekends. Yes, I could drop it off before/after work, but then I have to bother someone for rides back and forth.
 
I feel like Hyundai is working on the quality of the vehicles, but it is just not there yet. But listen - long story short - you cannot get all of the features in the top of the line model in any other competitor model for anywhere near the same price. The final selling price on my car was $24,300 and I have every bell and whistle I could get on it. The Camry, Altima, and Accords are at least 10k more with all of the features. So at the end of the day, yes this car has some issues, but I do love all of the features and do not have any regrets purchasing it (most days).
 
PS I drove a Ford Fusion V6 last weekend while on vacation and while it was a decent ride, the V6 was a joke. I've driven four cylinders with better pickup speed. So I'm not even comparing the American car competition to the Sonata.
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Re: No More Sonata Soon [chrrmurp] by kenlight1
May 14, 2009 (5:59 pm)
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Replying to: chrrmurp (May 14, 2009 2:33 pm)

On your NAV lockup I would take it back to the dealer and complain. Mine lockup up about 4 months ago and the dealer ordered a replacement and swapped out the radio/NAV unit. The new unit has worked flawlessly and as a side benefit I had XM radio until last week (9 months) when they finally turned it off.
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Re: No More Sonata Soon [kenlight1] by chrrmurp
May 15, 2009 (3:52 am)
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Replying to: kenlight1 (May 14, 2009 5:59 pm)

You know, the first time I took it in they were going to replace it. Maybe I will have them do that. Thanks for the reply.
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Re: Stick-shift Sonata? [stephen987] by sharksoup
May 15, 2009 (6:57 pm)
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Replying to: stephen987 (May 14, 2009 10:29 am)

Have an '09 that I bought new in summer of 2008. Just the basic GLS with 4 cylinder 5-speed.
 
Have about 10,000 miles on it so far with not a single problem.
 
I live in a rural area, commute 25 miles one way to work on 2 lane roads. Usually average 50-55 mph over about 20 of those miles, with the rest at 25-30 mph with 1/2 dozen stop signs and stop lights along the way. Now that things have warmed up, I'm getting 32 mpg over a tankful. Can easily make 450 miles + on a fill-up. Even in the dead of our normally very cold northern Maine winters, was still getting around 26-27 mpg; worst was probably 24 mpg when we had a 10 day stretch of temps at -20 to -30 every morning. I haven't done enough 4 lane long distance driving to give you any numbers on that.
 
The 5-speed is probably not the most refined transmission out there, but it's OK. It's a bit stiff shifting from 1st to 2nd, but rest of the gears are smooth. Noticed in the cold weather that the stiffness increased in all gears. I contacted the dealer and asked about putting a winter weight transmission fluid in - was told absolutely not as it uses some sort of specialized fluid (apparently Mitsubishi does too), and putting anything else in would ruin it.
 
Have to admit that even after 10,000 miles, I still stall the thing out once in a while when taking off in first gear. I blame that mostly on 2 things - my own inattention to what I'm doing, and the fact that the engine idles at low RPM, and needs a bit more gas starting out than other 5-speeds I've owned.
 
On the occasions when it's been needed, it handled any sort of downshifting and high revving that I've given it.
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Re: Stick-shift Sonata? [sharksoup] by stephen987
May 15, 2009 (10:10 pm)
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Replying to: sharksoup (May 15, 2009 6:57 pm)

THanks for the detailed report!
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Re: Stick-shift Sonata? [stephen987] by tkachuk07
May 21, 2009 (10:06 am)
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Replying to: stephen987 (May 14, 2009 10:29 am)

I just purchased one, 500 miles. I'm happy with it. I've driven manuals, Toyotas, my entire driving history & the Sonata shifts fine, actually a little smoother. I was stalling it every now & then in the first few days, but I've got a good feel for it now. I agree with the other poster about giving it enough gas in first or reverse. I don't think I'll have anymore problems with stalls now that I'm used to it, except for the occasional brain fart.
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Caution With Manassas Hyundai by vaguy4
May 22, 2009 (6:23 pm)
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Use caution with Manassas Hyundai at 8651 Centreville Rd., RD in Manassas, VA. The deal that was made with me was not what I ended up with. The Sales Manager, Chris H., left for the day and when I met with the Finance guy, it was too late. They tacked on a large amount of money that was more than listed on the sticker. The Sales manager also said he could make the interest rate on the loan whatever he wanted too. Unfortunately, Chris H. can lie to your face and not do a very good job in covering it up. Beware. I've also had problems with the used cars and was almost sold a defective car that should have been sent back to the auction.
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Re: No More Sonata Soon [chrrmurp] by dgs4
May 22, 2009 (10:01 pm)
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Replying to: chrrmurp (May 14, 2009 2:33 pm)

"I feel like when you purchase a new car, you shouldn't have to take it into the dealer constantly"
 
Bingo, that statement sums up my feelings to the tee (by the way, I'm a male). The only reason to buy a new car and not buy a used car which is financially FAR more sensible than being new, is because we don't want to deal with any potential problems a used car may have. I probably would have been better in a used car than my brand new Sonata! Unacceptable number of problems in a new car. Taking it to a dealership to have it repaired is an unbelievable inconvenience, and it's one I did not want to deal with by buying new instead of used.
 
Well the car is gone and I couldn't be happier. The girl who bought my car is super happy, especially because I took it in to the dealership before I sold it to her to have as many of the issues fixed as possible. I hope for her sake they all work out.
 
Lastly, I have since come to learn how lucky I am to have gotten $20K for my car. When I brought my car in for service I ended talking with the used car sales manager and told him I was selling my brand new 09 Sonata. He asked me why and I told him, and then he asked me how much I was getting for it. When I told him $20K he looked kind surprised and said "that's a great deal". He told me he would have only given me $15,500 for it! Wow, do these things lose value. He confirmed that you can get a brand new one with all the rebates and everything for like $22,000 so why would the dealership pay me $20,000 for my used one? Incredible. Thanks to all you people buying a $27,500 car for $20,000 because it's you folks who have destroyed the resale value of these cars. I suppose that's great if you plan on keeping it till it's paid off, but if you plan on selling it before then you better have a good chunk of money to pay off the negative equity.
 
Never again for me with Hyundai. I could sell my 2009 Honda Fit for close to what I paid for it because Honda's hold their value. I could do the same with a MINI. Basically I could do the same with any car that is not treated like a cheap, disposal appliance the way Hyundai's are. Lesson learned. Take care, best of luck to you all, and may your Sonata be problem free even though mine wasn't.
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Re: Caution With Manassas Hyundai [vaguy4] by pat HOST
May 23, 2009 (3:13 pm)
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Replying to: vaguy4 (May 22, 2009 6:23 pm)

I'm sorry to hear that.
 
You might want to submit your experience to our Dealer Ratings & Reviews page so that others will find it more easily.
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Automatic lock question by dovid2
May 26, 2009 (9:26 am)
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I have about 2000 miles on my Limited, and before I take it in for the first oil change, I wonder if anyone can help me: I like the automatic locking feature on startup, but am not so crazy about all the doors unlocking when I shift into Park.
 
I know this can be programmed, but can it be programmed to lock, but not unlock? I can open my own door and don't care to have them all unlock at once.
 
Thanks for any help.

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