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Re: No More Sonata Soon [dgs4] by stephen987
May 11, 2009 (2:55 pm)
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Replying to: dgs4 (May 11, 2009 2:37 pm)

first year depreciation, which ranges from 10% to 20%.
 
No offense, but you're out of your mind.
 
The only thing that can come anywhere near holding 90% of its value (10% depreciation) after 12 months on the road is a BMW 3-series. First year depreciation of 20-25% (75-80% value retained) is common for mainstream Japanese brands. For a typical US midsize sedan with heavy fleet sales, you can expect to lose 35-40% in the first year.
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Re: No More Sonata Soon [dgs4] by bhmr59
May 11, 2009 (5:34 pm)
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Replying to: dgs4 (May 11, 2009 2:37 pm)

If you only got $1500 off MSRP, you really got "took." No wonder you are so bitter about your experience, as well as not taking your car to dealer to address any issues that came up.
 
Four years after having bought my '05 Sonata, the previous generation (which adds to depreciation), it is worth about 40 -45%%, as a trade-in, of what I paid for it including dealers fees but excluding state tax. This is not uncommon for any car.
 
IMO. depreciation should be based on actual price paid--that's what affects me. But pricing guides such as Edmonds can't really track "real street" prices of new car sales so they use MSRP.
 
Face it, man, you overpaid (a lot) when you bought the Sonata. I wouldn't pay $20K to buy your used Sonata when I could easily buy a new one for about $22K.
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Re: No More Sonata Soon [bhmr59] by dgs4
May 11, 2009 (6:11 pm)
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Replying to: bhmr59 (May 11, 2009 5:34 pm)

"Face it, man, you overpaid (a lot) when you bought the Sonata. I wouldn't pay $20K to buy your used Sonata when I could easily buy a new one for about $22K."
 
Oh, you're right. No question about it. My Sonata is in perfect condition with very low miles and this girl really likes my car because it is the exact option and color combo she wanted. She already got approved through her credit union, I'm very excited to unload the car and I'm also happy she's getting a car she is going to love owning.
 
I will never buy another Hyundai again however. They will never hold their value against Japanese cars because everyone expects to purchase a Hyundai for way below even invoice cost. How Hyundai dealerships make any money is beyond me with every customer nickle and diming them to death. But you get what you pay for I guess. Cheap prices for a cheaply made vehicle.
 
And yes, average new car depreciation is 10% to 20% in the first year. Sure, it's probably worse for brands like Hyundai, Kia, and the domestics, but "average" new car depreciation is what I'm referring to. Go do your research before you slam my post. If you think a Honda Accord loses anywhere near as much value in the first year as a Hyundai Sonata you're delusional.
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Re: No More Sonata Soon [dgs4] by ray78
May 11, 2009 (7:22 pm)
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Replying to: dgs4 (May 11, 2009 2:37 pm)

Don't be too quick to call the man a liar! I purchased a 2009 Sonata Limited V-6 W/O Nav but with Bluetooth, cargo mat, mudguards, Cargo net and floor mats on 3/30/09 for 19500.00 OTD. Had $4500 in rebates plus dealer discounts.
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Re: No More Sonata Soon [ray78] by rdillier
May 12, 2009 (3:43 am)
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Replying to: ray78 (May 11, 2009 7:22 pm)

Ray: Where did you purchase your Sonata? It sounds exactly like the type I'm looking for, and the price sounds good also. I'm in Mrrrrrlund, between Bawllllamrrrr and D.C. so I've learned about FitzMall and Fairfax Hyundai, but I'm willing to drive further for a good deal. Thanks, Bob D.
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Re: No More Sonata Soon [dgs4] by kenlight1
May 12, 2009 (5:15 am)
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Replying to: dgs4 (May 11, 2009 6:11 pm)

Don't worry there are a lot of naive people out there like you. My father used to brag about his new car deal when he paid sticker price but was able to talk them into including a free side view mirror (sometime around 1960).
 
BTW; At the height of the high gas prices it was almost impossible to find a 4 cyl Sonata. My limited 4 cyl with NAV was $20,549 (not including taxes and title). This price was lower than the demo price from another dealer. This was without $750 owner loyalty rebate. The 6s were readily available at the time and there was more bargaining room.
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Re: No More Sonata Soon [rdillier] by themerg
May 12, 2009 (12:42 pm)
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Replying to: rdillier (May 12, 2009 3:43 am)

If you're willing to check our Fairfax Hyundai, also take a look at Brown's Manassas Hyundai. I got a pretty good deal there last September and they are pretty friendly.
 
- Merg
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Re: No More Sonata Soon [rdillier] by ray78
May 14, 2009 (7:37 am)
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Replying to: rdillier (May 12, 2009 3:43 am)

I purchased my Sonata from McCarthy Hyundai in Olathe, Kansas. It replaced a 2006 Sonata LX V-6. I had NO problems with it in 53000 miles 0f driving. I have had no problems with my new Sonata.
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Stick-shift Sonata? by stephen987
May 14, 2009 (10:29 am)
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Does anyone out there own a current-generation Sonata with the manual transmission? I'm interested to know how it drives, what kind of mpg to expect, and so on.
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Re: No More Sonata Soon [dgs4] by chrrmurp
May 14, 2009 (2:33 pm)
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Replying to: dgs4 (May 02, 2009 8:37 pm)

I have to chime in here and agree with a few of the items dgs4 listed in the original list of complaints about the 2009 Sonata that he/she is now selling. I have a 2009 Sonata V6 Limited with about 26,500 miles on it. I've had it for one year and have written to this forum about several of these issues in the past. The difference between us is that I've actually taken my car in for these issues. Unfortunately, most of the issues still persist.
 
1. Transmission: Rough shifting from 1-2 and then jolting when slowing down from a highway ramp when it downshifts. My car has done this since day one. I took it to the dealership about it and they reset the adaptive learning control on the transmission (the computer learns how you drive the car and adjusts how it shifts accordingly). This helped and it is a little better, but it still does it and it is very annoying to me. I have read reviews that the shifting on these is rougher than competitors, however. It is what it is, I guess.
 
2. Navigation locks up. I had this issue as well. I took it in to the dealer and they performed an update to it (there was a known issue about it). That did help, but it still locks up every so often - just less frequently than before.
 
3. Suspension noises and crackling in dashboard. These are there and I notice them, but they do not bother me as much as the first two items.
 
4. Speaker vibrating at medium volume. I have this issue in my passenger door speaker. I believe there is something rattling inside the door though - not the speaker. I plan to have the dealership look at this the next time I take it in for an oil change.
 
5. This has not been mentioned, but mine stalled out twice when turning the steering wheel while stopped when I first bought it. There was a recall for this ("Rough Idle" it was called) and the dealer fixed it with a computer update that took over an hour.
 
6. My car pulls to the left on the highway. I've written in about this - I had four alignments, tires balanced, etc - it still does it. There was a recall on a part in the cradle assembly of some of the models manufactured early on that was causing this to happen. Mine was manufactured with the good part though (the dealer can look at the code on it to tell if it's the recalled part or not). So right now they still don't know why it is doing this. They said the technical place they call is aware of it, but doesn't have a fix for it yet.
 
I feel like when you purchase a new car, you shouldn't have to take it into the dealer constantly and that is all I have done my first year of ownership. In addition to oil changes/standard maintenance, I've had to make several additional trips to the dealership. I had an older car before this one and it was always in the shop so I bought this new car thinking I would not have to take it in all of the time. I'm happy that Hyundai has good customer service and the warranty has covered these things but it has been a real inconvenience taking time off work and trying to find time to take the car in and waiting for these repairs. The dealership by me is only open 7:30am - 6pm M-F and not open on weekends. Yes, I could drop it off before/after work, but then I have to bother someone for rides back and forth.
 
I feel like Hyundai is working on the quality of the vehicles, but it is just not there yet. But listen - long story short - you cannot get all of the features in the top of the line model in any other competitor model for anywhere near the same price. The final selling price on my car was $24,300 and I have every bell and whistle I could get on it. The Camry, Altima, and Accords are at least 10k more with all of the features. So at the end of the day, yes this car has some issues, but I do love all of the features and do not have any regrets purchasing it (most days).
 
PS I drove a Ford Fusion V6 last weekend while on vacation and while it was a decent ride, the V6 was a joke. I've driven four cylinders with better pickup speed. So I'm not even comparing the American car competition to the Sonata.

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