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Replying to: dgs4 (May 02, 2009 8:37 pm) BTW I hope you enjoy your Honda Fit. Be sure to check the fit group and come back and tell up how perfect it is. |
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Replying to: carbunt (May 03, 2009 10:12 am) |
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Replying to: carbunt (May 03, 2009 10:12 am) |
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Replying to: carbunt (May 03, 2009 10:12 am) I don't expect perfection. I would have been okay with maybe one or two of these problems, but five problems in one year of ownership is too much for me. It's not like a rattle or something like that you might hear every so often, but rather all the time. Every time I drive the Sonata it shifts poorly, every time!. Every time I drive over anything but glass smooth pavement I have to listen to the bucket of bolts that consituets a suspension system. Every time there is a change in interior temperature I have to listen to the dashboard plastic pop and crack as though someone set a bowl of Rice Krispies on my dashboard. Every time I turn my stereo up more than half way I have to listen to my left speaker rattle the entire door. Lastly, when I am using the car navigation system, I have to keep my fingers crossed it gets me to my destination without locking up. I don't want to have to deal with those issues on a new car, sorry if that seems "nitpicky" to some of you. I don't doubt for a minute I will not have some issue come up on my Fit, but I seriously doubt I will have five issues like my Hyundai. It took a full year for all of the Sonata issues to rear their ugly head, so the verdict is still out on my Fit. But Honda didn't get their stellar reliability reputation for no reason, and thus I assume my issues will be mild if any. The Sonata was a good car when it was working perfectly. But it just kind of "fell apart" in the year I owned it, and regardless of whether a dealership service bay will be able to fix all my issues (I hope so for the sake of the future owner, who I have told about all the issues I'm dealing with), it puts a bad taste in my mouth, has soured the ownership experience, and would have left me wondering what else I was going to have to deal with down the road. Now I don't have those worries. |
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Love my car but have already had "5" warranty issues taken care of by the dealer. So don't believe everything you hear about that "stellar Honda reputation" as you call it...it just isn't there as far as I'm concerned. Just remember that there ain't no perfect car out there...or everyone would have 'em! The Sandman 
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| I just want to mention I'm an example of a fully satisfied 2009 Sonata buyer. Have had zero problems at all. The only issue...was a pinecone that somehow got stuck in the wheel, but luckily no damage to the car. Beyond that, I've only had to do basic maintenance. Generally as long as I don't push hard, shifts are very smooth, shifts are only noticeable when you do something weird or rev it up. I don't see anything particularly different about the suspension compared to other cars either, it's doing just fine as is. So I think this whole thing is YMMV. Test the car and see if you like the feel before making any judgements. | |
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Replying to: jlindh (May 03, 2009 7:48 am) I actually just re-read this and I have to strongly disagree. I doubt your claim that you bought a V6 Limited with navigation for $20,000 even. The car stickers for $27,500 so you mean to tell me they took $7,500 off the price? That either means one thing, you're lying about the discount you got, or that dealership lost serious money on the sale of that car to you. $4,000 off the price, sure, I could believe that as cheaply as these things sell for (and with good reason) but $7,500 is a bit much to swallow, even for a Hyundai. And yes, I guess I did overpay because I only got $1,500 off MSRP, but I bought my 09 Limited very shortly after the 09's hit the street. However I should have demanded $4,000 off the way everyone else does with these cheap Sonata's. Lastly, if you are telling the truth it's exactly due to people like you that Hyundai's don't hold their value worth a damn. Why would anyone buy a used one when they can get a new one for the same price? However $7,500 depreciation is hardly considered "good," as a matter of fact it's terrible. 27.27% is way above average for first year depreciation, which ranges from 10% to 20%. Again, the fact you got a new one for dirt cheap does not mean I'm getting a good deal at $20K. If my Hyundai held it's value like an Accord I would have been able to sell it for for $23,500 instead of $20,000. You live and you learn. |
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Replying to: dgs4 (May 11, 2009 2:37 pm) No offense, but you're out of your mind. The only thing that can come anywhere near holding 90% of its value (10% depreciation) after 12 months on the road is a BMW 3-series. First year depreciation of 20-25% (75-80% value retained) is common for mainstream Japanese brands. For a typical US midsize sedan with heavy fleet sales, you can expect to lose 35-40% in the first year. |
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Replying to: dgs4 (May 11, 2009 2:37 pm) Four years after having bought my '05 Sonata, the previous generation (which adds to depreciation), it is worth about 40 -45%%, as a trade-in, of what I paid for it including dealers fees but excluding state tax. This is not uncommon for any car. IMO. depreciation should be based on actual price paid--that's what affects me. But pricing guides such as Edmonds can't really track "real street" prices of new car sales so they use MSRP. Face it, man, you overpaid (a lot) when you bought the Sonata. I wouldn't pay $20K to buy your used Sonata when I could easily buy a new one for about $22K.
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Replying to: bhmr59 (May 11, 2009 5:34 pm) Oh, you're right. No question about it. My Sonata is in perfect condition with very low miles and this girl really likes my car because it is the exact option and color combo she wanted. She already got approved through her credit union, I'm very excited to unload the car and I'm also happy she's getting a car she is going to love owning. I will never buy another Hyundai again however. They will never hold their value against Japanese cars because everyone expects to purchase a Hyundai for way below even invoice cost. How Hyundai dealerships make any money is beyond me with every customer nickle and diming them to death. But you get what you pay for I guess. Cheap prices for a cheaply made vehicle. And yes, average new car depreciation is 10% to 20% in the first year. Sure, it's probably worse for brands like Hyundai, Kia, and the domestics, but "average" new car depreciation is what I'm referring to. Go do your research before you slam my post. If you think a Honda Accord loses anywhere near as much value in the first year as a Hyundai Sonata you're delusional.
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