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Also by mikemartin
Apr 20, 2009 (6:29 pm)
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I'm posting this just as a reference point because some of the people who have claimed that those complaining about suspension thunks and rattles are trolls or troublemakers.
  
I came across this on the Hyundai Owners' Forums.
  
http://www.canadiandriver.com/2008/10/01/test-drive-2009-hyundai-sonata-limited-- - - - four-cylinder.htm

 
Sorry everyone. If yo don't want to read that Canadian Driver article in its entirety, the relevant portion that speaks to the 2009 suspension is, and I quote, as follows:
 
If there’s a fault, it’s in the undercarriage; while the ride reaches a nice balance between comfort and agility, the suspension rattles over rough pavement, and there’s wheel hop over bumps. If your roads are glass-smooth you’ll probably never know it, but in my rural area they’re frost-heaved, and the rattles and bumps made themselves known most of the time. I’ve noticed this on a few Hyundai models, and it gives them a cheap undertone that could use some improvement.
 
So, I hope this is an objective response to criticism of those here who have complained about suspension issues, and especially rattling or clunking sounds. The article goes even further than that, claiming that it undermines a feeling of quality, and gives the Sonata and other Hyundais a 'cheap undertone that could use some improvement.'
 
For the record, I've never driven or driven in the 2009 Sonata.
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2009 Hyundai Sonata V6 Limited issues by dandaroy
Apr 21, 2009 (11:03 am)
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Guys,
 
I am new to this forum, but have been lurking around at other Hyundai forums with questions. Basically, I am not happy with the performance of the car. I think my issues have been discussed before, but I will highlight the issue that is bugging me the most and making my living with this car VERY hard.
 
It is the transmission shift quality. The 1 -> 2 shift under slow acceleration is quite jerky and unsmooth at all times. Also 2 -> 3 shift under slow to moderate acceleration is jerky from time to time, but not all the time. It seems like on both these shifts, if I back off the gas at the shift point, it is seamless. Also under hard acceleration (not as bad a WOT), the shifts are MUCH better. Initially when I bought the car, these shifts were horrible. Last Nov, I got the latest TCM update and although the shifts have gotten better, they are still bothersome. The dealership says there is nothing they can do anymore since they can offer only what Hyundai provides them. I have had the service manager drive the car and although he understands what my annoyance is, he does not have a solution. Hyundai says there is no further TCM update available.
 
The other issues like dash crackle, suspension noise, etc. I can live with, but not this one. Of course due to heavy depreciation I cannot trade or sell the car without a huge loss. I do not know why I did not discover this problem during the test drive. My bad!! Do you guys have any suggestions? If the shifting was smooth I could probably live with this vehicle.
 
Thanks!
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Re: 2009 Hyundai Sonata V6 Limited issues [dandaroy] by stephen987
Apr 21, 2009 (12:20 pm)
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Replying to: dandaroy (Apr 21, 2009 11:03 am)

Dandaroy, how many miles does your car have on it? I had a similar issue with the transmission in my '04 Ranger and was told the electronic controls were "learning" my driving style. That truck was a slow learner, and I sold it at a small loss after 20k miles.
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Re: 2009 Hyundai Sonata V6 Limited issues [stephen987] by dandaroy
Apr 21, 2009 (1:21 pm)
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Replying to: stephen987 (Apr 21, 2009 12:20 pm)

I have about 6700 miles.
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2009 Sonata 4 Cyl Impressions by kenlight1
Apr 23, 2009 (3:24 pm)
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Somebody wrote that perhaps the glowing reports on the Sonata were because they had just received the car. This looked like the perfect opening to get in my two cents. I have had my 2009 Sonata Limited w/NAV for seven months and 7,400 miles.
 
So far the only real problem was that the NAV locked up which was corrected with a radio replacement.
 
I am impressed with this car. Being 6' 3” it was next to impossible to find a mid size car that I didn't have to go through contortions to get inside or feel claustrophobic once inside. Although the car is an intermediate (based on length and width), the government has it listed as full size because of the interior passenger space. The instrument layout and controls are intuitive and has the best layout I've ever used. The interior has more storage areas then what should be. The cup holders are sturdy and can hold about any size cup. My gas mileage is always between 25 to 32 and am always utilizing the gas mileage computer in an attempt to improve my driving efficiency. The available extras (standard on the limited) are impressive and are not normally available on non luxury intermediate 4 cylinder autos. The government safety rating for the 2009 Sonata are 5s across the board. The factory warranty is one of the longest and should cover all major (real) problems with the car.
 
Somebody complained about the plastic popping noises that weren't on cars built 15 years ago. My new TVs also do this. I believe this is because of the expansion and contracting of the plastic. Please realize that plastic has replaced metals wherever possible to keep weight down and increase gas mileage. Other perceived complaints were about undercarriage noises going over rough road. I myself have not noticed this but this could be because my previous cars were performance oriented (read Pontiac) and I'm used to the wind noises in those which makes the Sonata seem quiet.
 
The minor (and I do mean minor) annoyances is that sometimes the sun will reflect on the NAV screen making it impossible to read, NAV routing is not as sophisticated as Garmin, and the map update procedure is not user friendly.
 
The other autos I found that were acceptable with my height and in the same price range were the Saturn Astra (marginal), Pontiac Vibe, and the Saturn VUE. None of these could come close on additional features.
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Re: 2009 Sonata 4 Cyl Impressions [kenlight1] by newowner10
Apr 24, 2009 (4:12 am)
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Replying to: kenlight1 (Apr 23, 2009 3:24 pm)

It appears the big two complaints on the 2009 are the "Thump" and the "Nav" system. There are some transmision complaints also. I would expect that Hundai should be able to fix both but that does not appear to be the case.
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Re: 2009 Sonata 4 Cyl Impressions [newowner10] by jack47
Apr 24, 2009 (4:43 am)
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Replying to: newowner10 (Apr 24, 2009 4:12 am)

I've had my GLS I4 sonata for seven months and have no complaints whatsoever.
 
Sure...there's a little "thump" when I drive over a bump, but I experienced the same with my Camry. No problem or annoyance for me. And for $16,000 it's a great car.
 
The sonata is assembled mostly, I believe, by robots....which makes me wonder why there could be any suspension deviations among the cars produced by said robots. Of course, if humans get involved in any part of the assembly...like in Detroit....then I could easily understand why some cars get screwed up.
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Re: 2009 Sonata 4 Cyl Impressions [jack47] by backy
Apr 24, 2009 (6:52 am)
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Replying to: jack47 (Apr 24, 2009 4:43 am)

There could be differences if the suspension parts are sourced from different suppliers, or the QC of the supplier isn't great, or if there is a design flaw that causes some cars to have a thump (beyond what is normal for the car) that shows up at some point.
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Re: 2009 Sonata 4 Cyl Impressions [jack47] by kenlight1
Apr 24, 2009 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: jack47 (Apr 24, 2009 4:43 am)

I think it's just a matter of people's taste. I do believe that there is a big difference between a real problem and a minor annoyance. An example would be the complaint with the transmission jerking between 1st and 2nd gear at low speeds. What problems has this caused?. Was any coffee spilled or did this cause any other real or precipitated problems? What set me off was the owner trying in invoke the lemon law over undercarriage squeaks over bumps. In my opinion completely over the edge.
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2009 Sonata impressions by ray78
Apr 24, 2009 (10:25 am)
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I think a lot of these complaints are from people who would complain if they were hung with a new rope!

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