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#709 of 1006 Re: Suspension noise--a "feature"?? [jlindh] by backy Dec 11, 2008 (7:29 pm)
Replying to: jlindh (Dec 11, 2008 3:32 pm) That could be it. I've noticed a similar "tire slap" noise in most other cars, except some that are so softly sprung that the tradeoff is a floaty ride. But it does seem some Sonatas have some kind of unusual suspension noise other than a normal "tire slap", since there have been TSBs and warranty-covered repairs reported in the Sonata discussions in Town Hall. Maybe I've been lucky not to get a car with that problem with all the Sonatas I've driven over the past 3-1/2 years. I drove a 2008 GLS with 35k on it a few weeks ago, and I specifically listened for suspension noise, but didn't hear anything. I did hear a little "tire thump" over the bigger bumps, but it was muted.
#710 of 1006 What price will be a gool deal for SE w/ or w/o premium package? by Yitian Dec 18, 2008 (6:30 pm)
Just test drove SE today and I like it. The only con is SE doesn't have that woodgrain accents, which looks really nice.   With $1k cash back and 0% APR, what OTD price excluding TTL will be a good deal for SE with or without the premium package.   Thanks a lot!
#711 of 1006 My 2009 GLS "noise"... by cld4 Dec 21, 2008 (1:19 pm)
I hear the same noise as the others posting here...more pronounced than my Camry.   Is this something that Hyundai has commented on? Or, the dealers' service department?   I wonder if it is "suspension" or the tire slap that some have commented on. Maybe the nitrogen-filled (overfilled?) tires contribute it?   thoughts? Replies to this message: investingdad (Dec 21, 2008 7:16 pm) cld4 (Dec 26, 2008 9:29 am)
#712 of 1006 Re: My 2009 GLS "noise"... [cld4] by investingdad Dec 21, 2008 (7:16 pm)
Replying to: cld4 (Dec 21, 2008 1:19 pm) I'm 99.9% sure it's the suspension and a function of the way it's designed.   Whether the tires are filled with air, N2, or helium is irrelevant. Replies to this message: cld4 (Dec 26, 2008 9:29 am)
#713 of 1006 windshield distortion by yitz Dec 26, 2008 (9:05 am)
My 2009 Sonata GLS has a distortion so that the lane lines in the road appear wavy from the drivers seat and passenger seat but more so from the rear seat.Anyone else notice i?
#714 of 1006 Re: My 2009 GLS "noise"... [investingdad] by cld4 Dec 26, 2008 (9:29 am)
Replying to: investingdad (Dec 21, 2008 7:16 pm) Thanks...I wonder if there is any remedy available?
#715 of 1006 Sonata vs Accord by reechz Dec 26, 2008 (7:58 pm)
Hey folks, I am on the fence about getting a GLS tomorrow- all this talk of bad suspensions and wacky sounds is scaring me off. I thought I would save $$$$ and get the pop package w/ the gls, for 16.2 , but now i am thinking of spending the extra thousands and getting an Accord . I want to keep this car for along time, can someone talk me back off the ledge and into the Hyundai dealership?   thanks in advance Replies to this message: backy (Dec 27, 2008 6:54 am) bhmr59 (Dec 27, 2008 11:27 am) chrrmurp (Dec 28, 2008 10:02 pm)
#716 of 1006 Re: Sonata vs Accord [reechz] by backy Dec 27, 2008 (6:54 am)
Replying to: reechz (Dec 26, 2008 7:58 pm) What you need to do before you buy a Sonata or Accord or ANY car is take it (the exact car you are going to purchase) for a loooong test drive, preferably by yourself or perhaps with other family members, over the kinds of roads you will likely travel on a regular basis. So run it over concrete and asphalt highways, city streets (the more potholed the better), and washboard secondary roads.   I have driven about 15 2006-9 Sonatas over all kinds of road surfaces. These cars had anywhere from 3 miles to 40,000 miles on the clock. There is a particular road near me that I use as a "test track" because it is badly rutted with an undulating surface, with several curves and no traffic, so I can get the car up to a decent speed. I have driven Sonatas, Accords, you name it on that road and others. I haven't noticed unusual suspension noise on any of those Sonatas. What I did notice was tire slap on some roads, particularly over tar strips/expansion joints, and especially with the 17" wheels. I am not saying others have not experienced other suspension noise; different people are sensitive to noises at different frequencies, and cars can have defects--which it appears is true on the Sonata, as there have been TSBs on the Sonata's suspension since the 2006 redesign.   But you need to test out the car you want to buy and see how it feels and sounds to you. Ideally, compare the Sonata and Accord back-to-back over the same course, if the dealers are close enough together to allow that. I am lucky in that I live in an area with many car dealers, so I can almost always do the back-to-back comparison on the cars I am considering.   Good luck, and let us know what you decide.
#717 of 1006 Re: Sonata vs Accord [reechz] by bhmr59 Dec 27, 2008 (11:27 am)
Replying to: reechz (Dec 26, 2008 7:58 pm) backy's advice about testing the exact car you are interested in is spot on.   I have had hearing loss at least since 1989 when I was 40 years old. Even with hearing aids now, there are some sound I do not always hear, usually higher pitched sounds. Then, there's times in a crowded situation when I cannot hear the person I am talking with but can hear someone else 15 feet away. Everyone's hearing is different, not just those with a hearing problem.   Drive the car & see for yourself. My 6 cyl, '05 Sonata (previous generation) is very quiet except on "old" concrete roads where road noise becomes a factor. This is due to tire noise with the Michelin's not wind noise.   My wife's Honda CR-V, to my hearing, is much noiser on any type of pavement, wind noise and engine noise.   Another poster stated some time back that he thought the Sonata was so quiet the other noises experienced in other cars may mask a minor suspension noise and make a Sonata suspension noise seem more than it really is. He could be right. Find out for yourself & good luck.
#718 of 1006 Re: Sonata vs Accord [reechz] by chrrmurp Dec 28, 2008 (10:02 pm)
Replying to: reechz (Dec 26, 2008 7:58 pm) To reechz who is on the fence about purchasing the Sonata, bite the bullet! You'll be getting a lot more bang for your buck with the Sonata and the warranty is unbeatable. I too was concerned about quality (I was a former Camry owner with 200k miles) because I drive my cars into the ground, but I rest assured with the excellent warranty. There isn't a day that goes by that I regret my decision to buy the Sonata over a Camry or Accord.   Regarding the noise issues being reported: I own a 2009 Sonata Limited (V6) and have put over 17,000 miles on it. From time to time I do hear a slight crackling-type sound inside, but I only hear it when I'm pulling out out of this parking garage that has a slight slope up and then goes down right away. I really do not ever notice anything like that while driving and it only seems to happen when I'm pulling out of that garage when it's cold outside. I don't even notice it in warmer weather. My 1995 Camry did the same exact thing in that spot in cold weather. I think the materials inside the car get slightly harder in the cold and make that sound when the car flexes as the road changes. It's definitely not anything I'm concerned about and I haven't noticed it during normal driving.   Also about the "tire slapping" - an owner of a model with 17" rims will likely hear the bumps/tar strips a lot more than a model with 16" or less rims. To me, the 09 Sonata is very well insulated and quiet so it is not an issue, but I will say that my 1995 Camry (which had 14" rims) and my 1993 Mercury Cougar (which had 15" rims ) were both slightly quieter over bumps. My father has a 2001 Chrysler 300m with 18" rims and his is much louder than the Sonata over bumps, tar strips, etc. As the rims get larger, the noise levels increase. I believe the GLS has 16" steel rims, which will likely be quieter than the 17" rims on the other models. Here is a quote from an Autotrader.com Expert Review: 2009 Hyundai Sonata about the tires: "In terms of ride quality, the 17-inch wheel/tire combination makes its presence known on rough pavement, where the shorter sidewalls transmit more of the road's imperfections into the cabin. The GLS four-cylinder, the lightest model and on 16-inch wheels, offers the best ride quality for those who do most driving on marginal roads."

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