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#542 of 1012 Invoice prices by jack47 Aug 06, 2008 (12:09 pm)
Hard to believe so called "invoice" prices are the true cost of any car. If they were the true cost (absent holdback and dealer incentives)...dealers would not sell their product for $2,000-$3,000 under their cost or "invoice".   Most nondurables are marked up ~100% while durables at least 50%. Why should cars be any different?
#543 of 1012 Re: price paid fo 09 sonata limited [wrs4] by kenlight1 Aug 06, 2008 (4:27 pm)
Replying to: wrs4 (Aug 06, 2008 5:38 am) Being 6'3" and over 60 I really like the space in the cabin. I have a GM card with $3K available against a purchase but I couldn't find a car that meant my criteria. My requirements was a car that I could get into without too much bending, 4 CYL, under 190” in length, and as much luxury options as I could get for a reasonable price. The new Malibu with all its praises requires me to twist and bend to enter the vehicle while the Buick has abandoned the 4 cylinder. The Sonota ride is comfortable and the car is only 2.5 " longer than my last car (Grand AM). Am enjoying the car. Likes: quiet, soft ride, comfort, lots of little storage spaces. MINOR dislikes: 1. Navigation System can be unreadable from sun glare, routing not very sophisticated, and can't add additional POI files. 2. Because of the large cabin size it has a big car feel when driving (cause I had a Grand Am) 3. Cannot see end when backing up (all cars seem to have this problem since the rear is higher than the front these days). Add a backup camera with the NAV system. 4. Would like trip computer to report current gas usage (does average). This could show good driving habits (and point out bad).
#544 of 1012 Re: price paid fo 09 sonata limited [wrs4] by kenlight1 Aug 06, 2008 (4:37 pm)
Replying to: wrs4 (Aug 06, 2008 7:22 am) Just a comment: It seems that if you deal over the Internet they are more likely to give you an Out The Door price. I really like this as when the paperwork is filled out I don't care if the entire amount is dealer prep as long as the OTD price is the price agreed upon.
#545 of 1012 Re: 2009 Hyundai Sonata SE 4-cylinder- Manual trans only? [stephen987] by igozoomzoom Aug 07, 2008 (5:20 am)
Replying to: stephen987 (Jul 24, 2008 6:55 am) Finally, Hyundai's website and Edmunds seem to have the accurate information on the SE 4-cylinder model. It seems that it's automatic only, with either engine.   Piggybacking on the conversation regarding fuel economy differences between manual and automatic transmissions, I've noticed that it's becoming quite common for automatic versions of numerous models have EPA ratings higher than their manual counterparts. The Honda Civic with automatic gets 2mpg more on the highway than models with the manual transmission.   In reality, despite the EPA ratings, conventional wisdom still seems prove true. All other things being the same, a manual transmission will use less fuel than an automatic. I find Consumer Reports' fuel economy data to be far more reliable and useful than the EPA numbers. CR always manages to achieve superior numbers with a manual tranny. Replies to this message: m6user (Aug 07, 2008 8:41 am)
#546 of 1012 Re: 2009 Hyundai Sonata SE 4-cylinder- Manual trans only? [igozoomzoom] by m6user Aug 07, 2008 (8:41 am)
Replying to: igozoomzoom (Aug 07, 2008 5:20 am) I wonder how the EPA tests the manual vs the auto tranny? If they test each car exactly the same (I would like to think they do) and on some cars the manual gets better mpg while in others the auto gets better mpg, how do you explain the manaul not getting better in all cases?   I think that some auto trannies computers are just getting so darn good at shifting at the absolutely best rpm that is almost impossible for a human being to match it. Even considering the power needed for the auto and the extra weight.   I really hope that it is just not a difference in the testing as that would make it hard to really compare different vehicles using the EPA numbers.
#547 of 1012 Re: Valet trunk lockout [vicmeldrew1] by yitz Aug 08, 2008 (2:37 pm)
Replying to: vicmeldrew1 (Jun 29, 2008 10:32 am) The valet key locks the golve box but anyonr can open the trunk by pulling th lever on the driver doror inside. Have you found anyhting else?. Replies to this message: raider23 (Aug 18, 2008 2:51 pm) coldgl (Aug 27, 2008 11:11 am) bhmr59 (Aug 27, 2008 3:02 pm) and 1 more... coldgl (Aug 28, 2008 2:43 pm)
#548 of 1012 Re: Navi problems [bmwconvt] by exjagonr Aug 13, 2008 (11:42 am)
Replying to: bmwconvt (Jul 11, 2008 6:50 pm) I have a similar problem. The graphic overlay does not come up when I use the NAV. I can see the words like previous addresses but the nice gui is missing. The Radio seems ok. took mine in over two weeks ago and the dealer tells me that they will not have anything until September some time. I was initially told that they would have the replacement in 10 days.   Aside from that I love the car. Replies to this message: bmwconvt (Aug 18, 2008 11:04 am)
#549 of 1012 Prices up by backy Aug 14, 2008 (3:47 pm)
Anyone else notice Hyundai has raised prices on the Sonata a bit? For example, on the GLS with AT the MSRP including destination went up $200, or about 1%. Replies to this message: jjx456 (Aug 15, 2008 4:30 am)
#550 of 1012 Re: Prices up [backy] by jjx456 Aug 15, 2008 (4:30 am)
Replying to: backy (Aug 14, 2008 3:47 pm) Yes, they announced it last month. Hope the incentives go up.   link title
#551 of 1012 Update to post #289 by chizi Aug 15, 2008 (7:06 pm)
This is an update on my 09 Sonata SE. At 8800 miles, there has been no issues with the car, gas mileage on the highway ranges from 29 mpg to 32 mpg depending on terrain and the amount of ethanol in the gasoline. 29 mpg has been consistent driving 75mph and 32 mpg doing 65mph. Until now, my service department has been using 10W30 but I switched to 5W30 (Mobile Clean 5000) two weeks ago; would be embarking on a 1000 mile round trip this weekend and see if there's any change in mpg with the 5W30 oil. The transmission is also shifting better as the mileage increases, and it is a fun to drive vehicle. Acceleration feels stronger compared to when the car was in its first 1500 miles (waiting to see what it does by the 15,000 mile mark). The Solus KH16 tires are doing better with age with regards to response and the wet traction is very good consisdering all the rainfall here lately. The service department has been very friendly and professional except for one incident; they used 6 quarts of oil for my last oil change even though the owner's manual specifies 5.49 quarts ( approximately 5.5 quarts). I have been going back and forth with them and they are insisting that the 3.3L V6 holds 6 quarts of oil ( even though the reading on the dipstick is past the Full mark). I will be calling Hyundai corporate to get a definite answer because I know over-filling the oil is not good for any engine.

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