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Re: price paid fo 09 sonata limited [backy]
by raider23
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Aug 06, 2008 (11:13 am)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 06, 2008 11:06 am)
does that allow me to not have to get the sunroof? i was told that is standard on the limited.
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Re: price paid fo 09 sonata limited [raider23]
by tenpin288
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Aug 06, 2008 (11:31 am)
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Replying to: raider23 (Aug 06, 2008 7:02 am)
I don't have the exact figures in front of me right now, but we just recently purchased an 09 Sonata Ltd 4cyl, Willow Gray/Gray, with floor mats at Fairfax Hyundai in Fairfax, VA (we live in PA so we drove nearly 3.5 hours to get this car, it was worth it. The dealers around here wouldn't go below invoice). The MSRP you mentioned sounds almost identical to ours. After discount, rebates (we got the $500 loyalty rebate), etc, we left paying $18821 + $389 processing (profit) fee + TTL. The exact TTL is actually to be determined as we have a temp VA registration and are waiting for the C.O.A and a roughly $720 VA sales tax refund (6% on the difference between new and trade-in vehicles) so we can get the Sonata registered in PA. My wife loves this Sonata. It replaced an 04 Sonata LX that she swore she didn't want to replace until she saw the new one at the auto show in Pittsburgh this spring. By the way, on the way back from VA to PA, that new Sonata 4cyl auto returned 31.2 MPG over nearly a 200 mile trip! 
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Re: price paid fo 09 sonata limited [raider23]
by backy
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Aug 06, 2008 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: raider23 (Aug 06, 2008 11:13 am)
Yes, sunroof is optional on the SE.
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Invoice prices
by jack47
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Aug 06, 2008 (12:09 pm)
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Hard to believe so called "invoice" prices are the true cost of any car. If they were the true cost (absent holdback and dealer incentives)...dealers would not sell their product for $2,000-$3,000 under their cost or "invoice".
Most nondurables are marked up ~100% while durables at least 50%. Why should cars be any different?
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Re: price paid fo 09 sonata limited [wrs4]
by kenlight1
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Aug 06, 2008 (4:27 pm)
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Replying to: wrs4 (Aug 06, 2008 5:38 am)
Being 6'3" and over 60 I really like the space in the cabin. I have a GM card with $3K available against a purchase but I couldn't find a car that meant my criteria. My requirements was a car that I could get into without too much bending, 4 CYL, under 190” in length, and as much luxury options as I could get for a reasonable price. The new Malibu with all its praises requires me to twist and bend to enter the vehicle while the Buick has abandoned the 4 cylinder. The Sonota ride is comfortable and the car is only 2.5 " longer than my last car (Grand AM). Am enjoying the car. Likes: quiet, soft ride, comfort, lots of little storage spaces. MINOR dislikes:
1. Navigation System can be unreadable from sun glare, routing not very sophisticated, and can't add additional POI files.
2. Because of the large cabin size it has a big car feel when driving (cause I had a Grand Am)
3. Cannot see end when backing up (all cars seem to have this problem since the rear is higher than the front these days). Add a backup camera with the NAV system.
4. Would like trip computer to report current gas usage (does average). This could show good driving habits (and point out bad).
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Re: price paid fo 09 sonata limited [wrs4]
by kenlight1
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Aug 06, 2008 (4:37 pm)
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Replying to: wrs4 (Aug 06, 2008 7:22 am)
Just a comment: It seems that if you deal over the Internet they are more likely to give you an Out The Door price. I really like this as when the paperwork is filled out I don't care if the entire amount is dealer prep as long as the OTD price is the price agreed upon.
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Re: 2009 Hyundai Sonata SE 4-cylinder- Manual trans only? [stephen987]
by igozoomzoom
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Aug 07, 2008 (5:20 am)
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Replying to: stephen987 (Jul 24, 2008 6:55 am)
Finally, Hyundai's website and Edmunds seem to have the accurate information on the SE 4-cylinder model. It seems that it's automatic only, with either engine.
Piggybacking on the conversation regarding fuel economy differences between manual and automatic transmissions, I've noticed that it's becoming quite common for automatic versions of numerous models have EPA ratings higher than their manual counterparts. The Honda Civic with automatic gets 2mpg more on the highway than models with the manual transmission.
In reality, despite the EPA ratings, conventional wisdom still seems prove true. All other things being the same, a manual transmission will use less fuel than an automatic. I find Consumer Reports' fuel economy data to be far more reliable and useful than the EPA numbers. CR always manages to achieve superior numbers with a manual tranny.
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Re: 2009 Hyundai Sonata SE 4-cylinder- Manual trans only? [igozoomzoom]
by m6user
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Aug 07, 2008 (8:41 am)
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Replying to: igozoomzoom (Aug 07, 2008 5:20 am)
I wonder how the EPA tests the manual vs the auto tranny? If they test each car exactly the same (I would like to think they do) and on some cars the manual gets better mpg while in others the auto gets better mpg, how do you explain the manaul not getting better in all cases?
I think that some auto trannies computers are just getting so darn good at shifting at the absolutely best rpm that is almost impossible for a human being to match it. Even considering the power needed for the auto and the extra weight.
I really hope that it is just not a difference in the testing as that would make it hard to really compare different vehicles using the EPA numbers.
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Re: Valet trunk lockout [vicmeldrew1]
by yitz
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Aug 08, 2008 (2:37 pm)
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Replying to: vicmeldrew1 (Jun 29, 2008 10:32 am)
The valet key locks the golve box but anyonr can open the trunk by pulling th lever on the driver doror inside. Have you found anyhting else?.
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Re: Navi problems [bmwconvt]
by exjagonr
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Aug 13, 2008 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: bmwconvt (Jul 11, 2008 6:50 pm)
I have a similar problem. The graphic overlay does not come up when I use the NAV. I can see the words like previous addresses but the nice gui is missing. The Radio seems ok. took mine in over two weeks ago and the dealer tells me that they will not have anything until September some time. I was initially told that they would have the replacement in 10 days.
Aside from that I love the car.
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