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Replying to: nomasfarc (Jul 23, 2008 11:09 am) |
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Replying to: nomasfarc (Jul 23, 2008 11:09 am) No, that's not going to happen. Automatics today are extremely efficient and in most cases equal (or beat) the manual version of the same car. The days of there being a big gas mileage advantage to manual transmission cars is long over. Couple the lack of mileage advantage with the fact 99% of us (including me now, sigh...) have to deal with the horrible mess known as rush hour traffic, and no one other than a sadist wants to drive in that with a manual transmission. Manual transmission is a dying beast, and I think in 10 years it will be gone. Just not practical in this country. Too much road construction and traffic everywhere you go to drive manual. Plus hardly anyone knows how to drive a manual transmission in America. Driving schools don't teach on anything but automatic. I know the few manual transmission die-hards keeping hoping and praying for a comeback, but it's time to face the facts, they are never going to be popular here. Either move to Europe or get with the program and learn to enjoy driving an auto, because soon that's going to be your only choice. I love the auto on my 09 Limited V6. It's so smooth, just like everything with the car. Three months and 3,300 miles into ownership and the car is still a treat to drive. It makes my new 20 mile commute in heavy traffic each way much easier to deal with. Especially enjoying my free XM trial (which ends at the end of the month). I will probably sign up for it when it ends. |
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Replying to: dgs4 (Jul 23, 2008 6:10 pm) For most American drivers (i.e., too preoccupied with the cell phone, the coffee, the makeup and/or the electric shaver during the daily commute), the automatic is easier, safer, and just as economical. As a skilled and attentive driver, I prefer to have the choice. But I realize that you'd prefer that I and others of my type simply die off or "move to Europe." Someday you might win, but I would prefer not to have everything reduced to its lowest common denominator.
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Replying to: stephen987 (Jul 24, 2008 6:55 am) I don't think the act of driving an auto transmission automatically(excuse the pun) means someone is not a skilled or attentive driver. I grew up driving sticks but prefer automatics now. There are plenty of people out there that drive sticks that aren't skilled drivers and vice versa. Modern automatic tranny drivers are probably getting better mpg than a lot of manual tranny drivers and I think the fact that some EPA automatic mpg ratings are higher than the manual proves this out. My point is that just because someone drives a stick doesn't make them a skilled, more attentive or frugal mpg driver automatically(there I go again  ).
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| The Sonata SE I4 Auto is now up on Edmunds under the comparison data. I assume it is up also under price with options but I didn't check. | |
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I have an 09 Sonata 4cyl with the Preferred Equip Package. Two questions: (1) Is there any way to make (or should) the interior lights come on when I use the remote to open the car doors at night? It seems unusual that when opening the car at night, no interior lights come on. (2) What does the "Auto" selection mean on the headlight selector? (When and what lights does this cause to operate?) Thanks. |
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Replying to: nearphila (Jul 28, 2008 10:58 am) There's some extremely nice ergonomics on the lighting and functions to make it automatic. The auto function handles your standard headlights and turns them on and off automatically based on amount of ambient light. I always leave it in auto..which will be bad if I ever drive a crappy car without auto headlights
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Replying to: nearphila (Jul 28, 2008 10:58 am)
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Replying to: earbuckle (Jul 28, 2008 11:18 am) I like the idea of the "auto"function, but prefer to have the headlights "on" during the day, like daylight running lamps (for safety), so that's probably not the choice for me. Thanks for the info.
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Replying to: nearphila (Jul 28, 2008 12:02 pm) Here is a link to a download of the 09 manual pdf: http://www.hyundaiusa.com/images/owners/service/manual/2009_Sonata_Manual.zip |
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