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2009-2010 Hyundai Sonata

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Re: Bluetooth [backy] by juxto
Feb 09, 2008 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: backy (Feb 08, 2008 9:36 pm)

There are price increases for 2009, so that for example the base GLS with AT starts at $19,995 including destination. Still less than Accord or Camry, or a comparably-equipped Malibu, but getting closer to those cars in price. Interesting strategy on Hyundai's part. I guess we'll soon see how far the brand has come.
 
I was actually considering a hyundai - for the first time ever. When I saw the prices I came to the obvious conclusion that it would not be a good idea. In a few years down the road I am sure that it would be a horrible financial mistake. I wish hyundai well, but think they may be more impressed with their product than the market.
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Blueconnect Bluetooth by jaxs1
Feb 09, 2008 (11:55 am)
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Looks like it will be a Blueconnect dealer or port installation in the headliner or sunglass holder.
The speaker and the microphone are integrated in one unit, so it just needs to connected to power.
 



 
I see it's offered on other 2008 Hyundais (like the Elantra and Azera) for the same suggested price of $325, but they do not specify that installation charges are included for $325.
 
Blueconnect looks OEM integrated with color matching to most interiors when installed and works well, but the disadvantage is that it isn't integrated into the stereo so you don't get caller ID or audio through the stereo. You will need to use your phone screen to see caller-id and you will need to mute the stereo yourself when a call comes in. You can mount your phone with a vent mount or cup holder mount so you can look at caller id without picking up the phone or maybe use custom ring tones on your phone so you can hear who it is by the ring tone is if one of your contacts are calling.
 
You can phone dial new numbers and contacts with voice tags by voice.
 
See the video:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuEBnhw_LHs
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Re: Blueconnect Bluetooth [jaxs1] by howard18
Feb 09, 2008 (12:14 pm)
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Feb 09, 2008 11:55 am)

What is the difference between this to the Bluetooth capable GPS??
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Re: Bluetooth [juxto] by backy
Feb 09, 2008 (12:18 pm)
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Replying to: juxto (Feb 09, 2008 9:00 am)

What other cars are you considering? How long were you planning to keep your next car? With those answers, you can do a financial analysis. One thing to keep in mind is that most dealers will try to get MSRP or close to it for a new model, but soon the discounts and rebates will reappear. The Sonata is in a very competitive market, so IMO Hyundai won't be able to sell the 2009 Sonata for near list price for very long. If we look at the launch of the then-new-2006 Sonata as a guide, it took only a few months for large discounts and rebates to appear on that car. I predict the same thing will happen on the 2009 Sonata once the supply of 2008s is gone and the "gotta have the latest model" buyers are satisfied.
 
So looking at history, I think it's reasonable to assume that within a few months, you will be able to get $4000-5000 off list on a 2009 Sonata. Those are common discounts on the 2008s now. For example, a well-equipped GLS AT (with convenience package) would then be around $16k +/-. What other car in its class offers what the Sonata does at that kind of price? And if you buy the car at a good discount and keep it for a few years, the financial picture won't be any worse and may be better than if you were to buy something like an Accord. But run the numbers for yourself.
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Re: Blueconnect Bluetooth [howard18] by jaxs1
Feb 09, 2008 (12:24 pm)
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Replying to: howard18 (Feb 09, 2008 12:14 pm)

You won't have theft concerns and hassle of hiding a portable GPS and then pulling it out everytime you get in the car even when you don't need the GPS function (so you will have access to the gps's bluetooth for phone calls),
The microphone placement in the ceiling would be better than where you would need to put a portable gps (so callers should hear you better)
You can dial any phone number by voice ("dial 555-7683").
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Re: Bluetooth [juxto] by bhmr59
Feb 09, 2008 (12:36 pm)
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Replying to: juxto (Feb 09, 2008 9:00 am)

When considering resale value there are many variables.
 
How old is the (model year) of the car? How many miles? What was the actual purchase price (not the MSRP)? How has that year make/model stood up? What is the current make/model selling for new now?
 
As new model years go up in price that tends to bolster the used car value of the same model.
 
Hyundai seems to be increasing its MSRP quite a bit recently. Our 2007 Sonata SE purchased 50 weeks ago had an MSRP of $22,005, we paid $16,651 plus fees & tax for OTD $18,189. The increased price for the '09's will keep up the used car value of the '07 (and my '05).
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Re: Blueconnect Bluetooth [jaxs1] by jaxs1
Feb 09, 2008 (1:22 pm)
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Feb 09, 2008 11:55 am)

If you look really carefully, you can see the Blueconnect in the overhead console of this Veracruz and the article refers to Blueconnect by name. That confirms it.
The only question that remains is if $325 is the installed price or just the price of the accessory part. You can order the part yourself for $249 at Amazon.com if all you get for $325 is the part and you still need to pay an hour of dealer rate labor to get it installed.
 

 
http://autosupermart.com/store/shop/news/PR/2007hyundaiveracruz.html
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Re: Blueconnect Bluetooth [jaxs1] by backy
Feb 09, 2008 (1:27 pm)
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Feb 09, 2008 11:55 am)

What makes you think installation wouldn't be included for the $325 asking price? Installation is included on other dealer-installed options that are listed along with the Bluetooth.
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Re: Blueconnect Bluetooth [backy] by jaxs1
Feb 09, 2008 (2:33 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Feb 09, 2008 1:27 pm)

Because when I build a car on the Hyundai web site and go to the accessories section it says in small print at the bottom of the page:
 
"All prices are suggested and dealer prices may vary. Installation of accessories is extra."
 
Some of the accessories are things like floor mats and cargo mats that they will "install" for you for no charge.
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Re: Blueconnect Bluetooth [jaxs1] by backy
Feb 09, 2008 (2:51 pm)
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Feb 09, 2008 2:33 pm)

Or in other words, "Installation is negotiable."

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