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Re: 2009 Sonata w/ Navigation - No Disc Changer? [chrrmurp] by 2002slt
May 21, 2008 (7:31 am)
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Replying to: chrrmurp (May 21, 2008 7:15 am)

I wasn't surprised, since it said that on the sticker. Just get an Ipod and forget it! You know you can watch movies on the nav? They don't display while driving, though. That's probably a good thing.
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Re: 2009 Sonata w/ Navigation - No Disc Changer? [chrrmurp] by moocow1
May 21, 2008 (10:58 am)
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Replying to: chrrmurp (May 21, 2008 7:15 am)

Forget the Disc changer. I finally got my 32GB Usb stick and I'm never looking back. All my cds will stay in their wallet as I enjoy a selection of 4000+ songs It's so much easier than digging through a hoarde of cds.
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iPod TSB by rv65
May 21, 2008 (3:11 pm)
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There is a TSB that just came out. It's for those using an iPod with the standard cable. It basically says that you need to buy the iPod adaptor cable for proper operation. Also I recommend updating the iPod's firmware to the latest version to ensure compatibility.
 
08620-2L000 is the part number for the iPod cable. I encourage any 09 sonata owner with any modern iPod to go to the dealer and get the cable.
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Hyundai 2009 Sonata Break-In Period CONFLICT with Auto Transmission by soccerdad7
May 25, 2008 (11:19 am)
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According to the manual, “No Formal break-in procedure is required. However, you can contribute to the economical operation and durability by observing the following recommendations during the first 1,200 miles.”
• Two of the eight suggestions listed are:
o “Don’t drive faster that 55MPH”
o “While driving, keep your engine speed (rpm, or revolutions per minute) between 2,000rpm and 4,000rpm”
Following the second suggestion is impossible to do with automatic transmission unless one uses Sports Mode shifter to keep the rpm higher than Auto transmission will. For the most part Auto transmission keeps the rpm from under 1,000 to 1,500.
I want this engine to last as long as possible and in the long run I want to get the best MPG possible. Hence, do I keep using the Sports Mode shifter to keep the rpm around 2,000-2,5000?
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Re: Hyundai 2009 Sonata Break-In Period CONFLICT with Auto Transmission [so by moocow1
May 25, 2008 (1:11 pm)
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Replying to: soccerdad7 (May 25, 2008 11:19 am)

I don't think the 2000-4000rpm is really a rule you need to follow. The more important thing during break-in is just to try to vary the rpm's. Don't always drive at one single rpm, which means using the shifter at times could be good. Of course I also don't follow the 55mph rule because it's ridiculous to drive that slow on a freeway.
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Re: Hyundai 2009 Sonata Break-In Period CONFLICT with Auto Transmission [so by dgs4
May 25, 2008 (7:40 pm)
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Replying to: soccerdad7 (May 25, 2008 11:19 am)

I bought an 09 Limited V6 with the navigation system option about three weeks ago. Totally loving this car.
 
As far as the break-in suggestions, that 2K to 4K rpm bit is for manual transmission cars, obviously not the automatic. Even though Hyundai doesn't specify that, it's pretty easy to figure out, as bringing the engine to 4K rpm's in the auto would mean completely flooring the throttle, and that's not good during engine break-in. I'm actually surprised how many miles Hyundai suggests for break-in. 1,200 miles is much longer than other manufactures, but I'm following it just the same.
 
And to moocow1, actually driving faster than 55 MPH on the highway with today's ~$3,70 a gallon gas prices (and rising daily) is "ridiculous." I'm absolutely amazed at being the slowest car on the freeway driving 55 MPH. People are blowing by me like I'm standing still. I guess no one has made the mental leap that the faster you drive the more gas you burn. This is especially true at anything over 55 MPH, where gas mileage plummets. People bitch and complain about high gas prices but they do absolutely nothing about changing their driving style to help mitigate the pain. They still floor-it as soon as the light turns green like they are in some kind of race, they still drive 80 MPH plus on the freeway like they're taking a pregnant wife to the hospital, and they still break at the very last instance like they're testing their breaks to make sure they work. That is ridiculous, not driving 55 MPH, not taking off very slowly from stops, and not slowing down and breaking way in advance of a stop. That is smart driving, and it seems to me there are very few smart motorists on the road these days.
 
I can't do anything about the ridiculous price of gas, but I'm sure not going to be hypocritical about it like everyone else by bitching and then not do a damn thing to change.
 
Slow down people, what is your darn rush?!
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Re: Hyundai 2009 Sonata Break-In Period CONFLICT with Auto Transmission [so by moocow1
May 25, 2008 (11:57 pm)
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Replying to: dgs4 (May 25, 2008 7:40 pm)

The difference in gas mileage between 55 to 70 isn't really that much for most cars with decent aerodynamics. Losing a few mpg isn't the end of the world. And the rush is that sitting there driving for an extra 20% longer on the freeway is pretty silly. The speed limit is 65, why would you go under that? And time really IS money, it's the key to investments. So you lose money by either wasting time, or wasting gas. Pick one.
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Re: Hyundai 2009 Sonata Break-In Period CONFLICT with Auto Transmission [so [dgs4] by 2002slt
May 26, 2008 (7:07 am)
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Replying to: dgs4 (May 25, 2008 7:40 pm)

actually driving faster than 55 MPH on the highway with today's ~$3,70 a gallon gas prices (and rising daily) is "ridiculous." I'm absolutely amazed at being the slowest car on the freeway driving 55 MPH. People are blowing by me like I'm standing still.
 
In IL you would get a ticket for impeding traffic. Drive the speed limit, or get off the road.
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Re: Hyundai 2009 Sonata Break-In Period CONFLICT with Auto Transmission [so [moocow1] by backy
May 26, 2008 (8:29 am)
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Replying to: moocow1 (May 25, 2008 11:57 pm)

The difference in gas mileage between 55 to 70 isn't really that much for most cars with decent aerodynamics.
 
I have to disagree with that as a general statement. My 2004 Elantra AT is quite aerodynamic for a compact car. There is a significant difference in mpg at 55 vs. 70. At 55, the engine is loafing at around 2000 RPMs, and can easily get near 40 mpg on level ground at that speed. At 70, the RPMs are around 2700 (I forget exactly how fast) and mpg drops to around 35 mpg on level ground. I have found similar behavior on every other car I've owned over 30+ years.
 
There is discussion in the press about resurrecting the 55 mph national speed limit, to save gas. Already some states are dropping their speed limits.
 
On a long trip, I can see the benefit of going 70 vs. 65. On around-town driving, I think the gas savings in slowing down far outweigh the little bit of time saved. I did a test once. I drove a route I frequently travel across town, mostly on an urban freeway but with some city streets and stoplights too, about 7 miles total. On the way to my destination, I drove the speed limit (55-65 range) on the freeway and tried to use as light a foot as possible on the gas, considering conditions. On the way home, I drove much more aggressively, went 5+ over the speed limits, didn't pay any attention to how hard I was pressing on the pedal, and sped away from stoplights. I got about 24 mpg. I also saved a whopping 1 minute on my trip.
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Re: Hyundai 2009 Sonata Break-In Period CONFLICT with Auto Transmission [ba by moocow1
May 26, 2008 (12:07 pm)
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Replying to: backy (May 26, 2008 8:29 am)

The sonata's gearing is built for higher cruising then because 70mph = 2k rpm or so. And I've been getting 30-35 mpg on freeways so there's definitely no complaint about fuel economy so far.

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