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2009 Kia Borrego

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#24 of 43
The magazine Gurus need a help wanted sign! by kiatn
Nov 27, 2007 (11:45 am)
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The obvious clues in the press release on the V8 possibilities and towing capacity should give these guys a clue. I have seen that this is a Sante Fe variant and Veracruz spin-off. and a step up from Kia to daddy Hyundai like that was some Cadillac. Gee these guys need to get to work instead of catching gossip from reliable sources like the CIA. This IS KIA and they are not stepchild or little sister of the other Brand. The World market sees them as a big player with a significant branding and individual product base. Go to the KIA International site.. it kicks!
The Serento with 5000 towing outclasses all the luxury SUVs below $40K ....Why? Rear wheel drive! No Hyundai SUV has RWD! So if a V8 is offered with an increase its got to be RWD+ AWD option. Thanks to those preproduction photos posted below that seems to be the case. Those photos also have Six Lug wheels like a truck based SUV showing a leaning to a heavy duty vehicle. I know they are only photos and production is a phase beyond in execution and final product. The Rolling photos also have six spoke wheels to compliment. I would not be surprised if the Truck Mohave is not very close in chasis when it comes to light. Or is some dumbxxx in a magazine going to claim a Hyundai as king in this event. The hiring of the best Design from europe is going to remove those myths soon as KIA pulls the Brand past the others. KIA links to military vehicles with payloads must be in the Sorento pedigree and soon its siblings. The other Stars to rise Spectra (Green machine) Hybrid is being well tested before its arival and placed to be the least expensive Hybrid in full mode when it debuts. I wish it were posible to have the Euro Skined cars here then but that is wishful thinking. The compact SUV market in the "Soul" class has a VW offering on the way and see this Younger market be a battle zone of many smart designs. Not everyone is pulling an RV or wants to feed the pumps. The high-tech diesel market has been worldwide for years and in another SUV Kia Concept it may break the Octane fantasy with some Cetane points for freedom from the Pump Guys that eat the fun out of a trip. I just drove a V6 Rondo that some reviewer said quick but not less than his mark of ecellence. Does the car your Mom drive have to lay rubber when it leaves the drive because this is faster than any detroit box. Similary as the Sedona flys past it minivan competition. I think the Media bias keeps them from every declaring a KIA knock out. ARRP and other less infuenced outlets have shown good support. I will stop...but please give these poor excuses for magazines some editorial carving. Thanks and Onward KIA
#25 of 43
kiatn... by iluvmysephia1
Nov 27, 2007 (5:08 pm)
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keep on a postin' 'cause you like myself have been able to look past all of the Kia trashing that goes on and to look at the brand with a clear head.
 
You are right, Kia is its "own" brand, not really a subsidiary of Hyundai yet 51% owned by Hyundai, which is a big difference. Kia is only starting to take off.
 
My '99 Kia Sephia got me hooked on Kia and that car beat out the Corolla and Civic in body design and solid engineering that lasts. A small snafu with smallish-ly designed brake pads had to be figured out with the Sephia. My mechanic just installed a larger brake pad at change-out time, not a big deal. But the car was sound and once I had 70,000 Yokohama radial tires installed and Konig Diva wheels the car handled very well and was even more fun to drive.
 
Our '01 Kia Sportage 4X4 was an economical and fun little SUV to drive. When Americans put Kia down they are truly showing their ignorance...it still goes on even after Kia wins awards from the car mags. The 2006 Kia Rio5 was one of their finalists for 2006 Car of the Year award. JD Power recently acknowledged their much-improved initial quality improvement. The thing is, today most cars are close in quality, and...Kia has that unbeatable Long-Haul Warranty.
 
Keep posting the truth about Kia, kiatn. I have on this website for years. Kiaworld.net is a good one for Kia fans to check out. If anyone likes Kia and wants to go blog about them. And learn much about their European expansion, Peter Schreyer's new design work, etc. Kia/Hyundia is #5 worldwide and rising fast, gentlemen.
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2009 Kia Borrego by lok888
Nov 29, 2007 (8:22 am)
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This rebadged Hyundai Terracan looks like one of those outdated GM or Saturn SUVs, especially the one in orange on Kia web site. But it helps a little for the outdated Terracan styling. It looks like they will put a 3.8L V6 instead of the 3.5L in Korean domestic market. And for what I've read, I don't see the side airbags on the Borrego.
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Re: 2009 Kia Borrego [lok888] by paisan
Nov 29, 2007 (5:24 pm)
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Replying to: lok888 (Nov 29, 2007 8:22 am)

Terracan is awsome! It's the korean equivalent of the LandCruiser!
 
-mike
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Re: 2009 Kia Borrego [lok888] by rv65
Dec 02, 2007 (5:13 pm)
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Replying to: lok888 (Nov 29, 2007 8:22 am)

I should expect Side airbags. Some of the borrego pics in korea had them. Side curtain airbags too. The v6 will be 3.8L Lambda engine. V8 will be the new Tau engine. The Tau engine will be installed in the new Hyundai Genesis.
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Re: 2009 Kia Borrego [lok888] by kiatn
Dec 02, 2007 (6:28 pm)
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Replying to: lok888 (Nov 29, 2007 8:22 am)

I dont know where you get your information?
KIA has had 100% all model side curtain air bags. To the cheapest Rio in 2007
Knee bags on some some like Sorento.
Active head restraints made the Sedona outstanding in class with IIHS 2006-2008
5 Star rear impact class winner in Optima being 5 star all directions. 2006.5 2007
See http://www.safercar.gov/SideAirBags.cfm
See how many cars makers do not have them but as options or in some cars not at all. Chrysler was about 50%
NHTSA (Safercar.gov) does not do the rear impact test and more preoccupied with the Roll over Explorer / Firestones test.
Tire pressure monitoring is standard in all but Rio also.
ESC the new benchmark in available or standard in many KIA.
Also see Tire Rack the KUMHO tires standard on many are killing tires twice the price. The premium rubber versions are still less than $100
See the Euro/International site www.kiamotors.com if you have a couple of hours to watch the content and also a full interview with Peter about the design team and branding philosophy. The commercials are mini movies and the Flash contents are Mini-sites on their own. Its obvious some base is shared in supplier sides, but even my KIA parts department has few direct crosses so quit the cousin thing until you can show me the bloodline in partswap book.
My Sportage brother above...You cant pry anyone out of one before a lifetime of memories with so much love that its painful to trade for the next one.
Enterprise rentals and family to family is doing more to get people in KIA than the advertising. People call all the time saying how on the last trip or when they had car in shop how they liked the KIA and now want one. I know the H brand has a similar following of Lovers and hope they have thier own forum to pucker in DUH! DUH! DUH! If you want a DUH fun go to the DUH site and play the DUH Keyboard.
KIA Inteligents " We Know your Smarter" I wish I had the Rondo with the common rail diesel( CARENS in Euro). like I said....do the KIAmotors site only if you have the next two hours to spare.
#30 of 43
Re: What I would like in a Borrego [rv65] by ata10
Dec 07, 2007 (3:39 am)
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Replying to: rv65 (Nov 24, 2007 6:13 pm)

This is how Borrego looks in S. Korea where it will use different name. It will be called Mohave there. http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2007/12/05/kia-mohave/
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Re: What I would like in a Borrego [ata10] by kiatn
Dec 07, 2007 (5:14 am)
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Replying to: ata10 (Dec 07, 2007 3:39 am)

Its look like the Roll out could not be sooner with a three seat V8 Pathfinder in release just now. Does anyone have a good comparison data yet on it and Toyota models and the Borrego offering?
 
See KIA-BUZZ This is the Global Kia Blog site!!! Check out the transformers Carens (Rondo) commercial.
 
I just drove a Grand Prix from enterprise, no wonder people love the ride and vibration control in the KIA linage. Even a Rio interior looked more expensive.
#32 of 43
Interior pictures by ata10
Dec 20, 2007 (10:47 am)
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#33 of 43
Mohave/Borrego debuts in Korea by himi1
Jan 03, 2008 (6:51 am)
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Replying to: rv65 (Nov 24, 2007 6:13 pm)

 
Kia has officially released Mohave SUV in Korea. It's almost the same vehicle as will be US Kia Borrego. It only has different engine for Korean market.
 
I found some great pictures. You can see those here:
http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/01/03/kia-launches-mohave-suv-in-korea/"- >

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